Tracy R Reed wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

DJA wrote:
Every time I hear about computer security using digital signatures, I remind myself that, some biometrics aside, the only thing a digital signature can guarantee is that a specific _computer_ was the source of the signature, not a specific _person_.

Signatures generally require something you have (the key) and something
you know (the password). They can both be stolen but that is generally
more difficult than forging someones signature. So when you think about
written signatures just remind yourself that the written signature
proves nothing at all.

- --
Tracy R Reed

I think that makes my point. You're merely comparing digital signatures with something else that also depends completely on trust. To say that one insecure mechanism is similar to another doesn't help either case.

I see traditional signatures as being closer to biometric than are digital signatures. A living human created the written signature. While often easy to duplicate, it's difficult to do reliably and consistently. And a well-defined science has developed to detect forgeries - not fool proof, but by and large very effective nevertheless. But most importantly, a signature is a direct connection to the person creating it - forgery or not. You can't steal a signature. You might be able to duplicate it. Even if you do, it's virtually impossible to pass that signature onto someone else who is not also an accomplished forger.

A digital signature is connected only to a machine. Not the operator of the machine. There are exceptions, but for the most part those exist in very secure environments which also employ other safeguards. For the most important transactions requiring a signature, the person signing usually has to do it in person. A major difference, is that once a digital signature is compromised, (whether pass phrase or key is irrelevant) it can be easily duplicated and passed to anyone.

That a written signature may be forged is irrelevant. I was only pointing out that a digital signature validates only a machine, not a person. You have no physical evidence, for instance, as to who wrote this email. Even if it was sent using PGP security is not sufficient. It only tells me that the _someone_ using the computer at the moment has a proper key/pass phrase.

This is a computer to computer communication. That can be proven. Our belief that we are corresponding with who we think we are is based on trust.

--
   Best Regards,
      ~DJA.


--
[email protected]
http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list

Reply via email to