On Sun, 2006-11-05 at 12:46 -0800, Mike Marion wrote:

> Well, just looking at them.. the complete lack of space to really do  
> much of anything in there is a huge negative in my mind,  
> claustrophobic people would really freak I'd think.  If you wanted to  
> swap out some machines or networking bits... there's barely any room,  
> what a pain.  If you know you're going to grow over time so that it  
> would take a few of those.. what a pain to have to have external  
> hookups of power to each one, having to secure each one moving between  
> them to work on different hosts, etc.
> 
> Like I said.. (aside from onsite usage for specific remote things)  
> they might make sense for a company for a temporary solution until a  
> data center (or colo) is online, or if they're never going to grow  
> beyond one.  But I just do not see companies having a big chunk of  
> their parking lot (and there's a nice problem) filled with a bunch of  
> these side by side.
> 
> Maybe they'll prove me wrong.. but I wouldn't bet money on it.
> 

Having worked in construction and in data centers, if it were my
company, I'd do it. It's a hell of a lot less expensive to set up some
of these in a parking lot (or in the case of me building a new facility
for my company, a data center lot) than it is to design, get permits
for, and build a building (or add a room or two, or three, or...) for
housing my data center. In addition, expansion might require additional
permits and tearing up walls, etc. for more power, cable, A/C.

Providing space for these would require far less work and expense.
Compared to the expense of an entire building, the expense of a parking
lot and power and Internet hookups is cheap. Not to mention the savings
in time associated with it. Expansion would also be far easier.

Not to mention that if I'm buying Sun equipment in the first place,
you're damn sure I'm buying Sun service contracts and my IT team
wouldn't be the ones replacing the systems. Sun's team would (like they
ever break in the first place :) ).

As a bonus, they're steel and won't burn. They won't collapse easily
(maybe if my high-rise office building fell on them). If it came time to
move to a larger complex because of company growth, then we'd just
unplug 'em, load 'em onto trucks, and move 'em. No need to haul a boat
load of racks out of a building, onto trucks, secure them, unload them,
haul them into the other building, and hook 'em all up again.

IMO, these are much better all around.

PGA
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