begin  quoting Bob La Quey as of Wed, Nov 22, 2006 at 12:14:20AM -0800:
> On 11/21/06, Rachel Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >On 11/21/06, Stewart Stremler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Think of copyright law -- if we can avoid the Sonny Bono corruption case
> >> -- as providing a system where authors can deposit their works into the
> >> public domain directly, but with a countdown clock.
> >>
> >> Abolishing copyright (law) sets the countdown clock to 0.
> >>
> >> Disney wants to set the clock to forever.
> >>
> >> I bet that most folks (here) think a *reasonable* solution is to set the
> >> clock between those two extremes.
> >
> >The clock should be set negative.
> 
> Hurrah!!!! Finally an original thought. Just when I thought
> it was impossible.
> 
> Now my own thought was that more than time is involved.
> Space too is a variable. At the moment nation states tend
> to feel that they can carve up geo space ... but then there
> is also cyber space.
> 
> Secondlife has an alternative space, replete with an
> economy and cyber real estate agents. One of them
> made over $100,000 last year selling space in SecondLife.
> http://secondlife.com/

Looks like P.T. Barnum would be SOO jealous...

> (SL has a currency market that allows one to convert
> between their currency, Linden Dollars and US dollars) So
> why not issues of copyright in that space ... i.e. decided
> by the jurisprudence of the cyber community. And why
> should some arbitrary geographic community, e.g. the
> USA have any particular jurisdiction in this issue?
  
All that wonderful cyber stuff *still* relies on physical cables.
Bits reside on a machine, connected to that cable, connected to the
power grid, all residing at some geolocation.

> And let us suppose the "USA" decided they have jurisdiction
> over SecondLife, how do they propose to enforce that
> jurisdiction? What or who will they jail? What or which
> bank account will the seize?

Whomever they wish. The real guns of the "USA" trump virtual guns,
every time.  So far.  Until somebody decides that having a gun with
built-in wirelss network capability would be a Good Idea, I suppose.

> Ultimately these things all come down to economics and
> enforcement (i.e. power in various forms and quite pragmatic
> and practical issues), neither of which has been even
> broached in this turgid, lengthy, and remarkably sterile
> exchange.

Economics have been part of the thread, here and there, but generally
it's best to leave the economic analysis to those of you who rejoice
in such things.


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