Gabriel Sechan wrote:




From: Ralph Shumaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Gabriel Sechan wrote:

From: "Christian Seberino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Sun, March 25, 2007 9:26 pm, Lan Barnes wrote:

> Prayer is NOT illegal anywhere. FORCED prayer is in government funded
> institutions. Can't you discern the difference?

If I'm not mistaken, you couldn't give a graduation commencement address
and ask for a *voluntary* prayer before you started.


Nope, and you shouldn't be able to. Thats an official school function. By asking for a "voluntary" prayer, you're forcing everyone there, students and spectators alike, to stand by and wait while you pray. Sorry, you don't have a right to shove your beliefs down my throat. Actually, no, no I'm not sorry. You're perfectly welcome to say a short prayer before getting up on stage, just don't say it so loudly it interrupts procedings. That should be perfectly fine, unless of course its your goal to shoveel your drivel at everyone else.



*Your* drivel should not be allowed to suppress their prayers. If I choose to pray, you have the right to leave or to occupy yourself in some civil manner.

Sure- up until the point you're doing it as an invited speaker at a government funded event. You don't like that? You have the option to not speak.


Au contrair, the government should not have the power to stop me, as long as I keep it an appropriate brevity and on topic (unlike this thread, ..., there, that's better).


Besides, someone praying where you can hear them is *not* them shoving their beliefs down your throat. You forbidding them from doing so is *YOU* shoving *your* beliefs down theirs.

Who said they can't pray where I can hear them? They can't pray as an agent of the government during a government sponsored event. Huge difference.


I dunno, not me. And they shouldn't be forbade from doing so. Ask Congress... (Shhh... Wait... They're not finished praying.)


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