Lan Barnes wrote:
:'-(

It'll run idle overnight with no problems, but when I load the CPU (top
says 30%), it goes from 38 C to 68 C in about 4 minutes.

I'm taking it back and making the case that the original diagnosis charge
should still be in force.

Everyone keeps assuming that the problem is related to hardware. It may very well not be. Fan and Processor speed are controlled both at the BIOS level, and by ACPI. Someone mentioned Sensors - Sensors cannot write, it can only read temp and fan settings, and in fact is known to interfere with ACPI (which can and /does/ manage fan/CPU/temp settings) on some laptops.

I don't remember if you have Windows running on the laptop, but if you do, then a sure way to see if it's hardware vs. firmware/software, is to see if it overheats in Windows. In fact you may have to install Windows just to get a reliable diagnosis. Looking at hardware only is _not_ going to give a definitive answer unless something is obviously broken.

Keep in mind that laptop manufactures' BIOS writers seldom properly follow ACPI and ACPICA (Intel) specs, so many models don't work as expected when it comes to fan/CPU/heat management. In Linux, it's the job of ACPI to compensate. It's a very tough whack-a-mole type problem. But it's getting better fast.

There are ways to read your laptop's temp trip points and their associated fan speeds and CPU throttle points. Sometimes just upgrading to a newer kernel can fix the problem. Sometimes just upgrading to a newer kernel causes a problem.

I've found it educational and helpful to follow the ACPI4Linux mailing list as well as the one specific to ACPI for my laptop. You may want to do the same.

I don't recall what brand of laptop you have, but if you can identify the maker of its motherboard, you may find there is an ACPI kernel module specific to it. For instance, there are for Sony, IBM, Asus, and I think MSI and Toshiba. Do a search in Dmesg or the Syslog and look for any strings containing "ACPI".

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      ~DJA.


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