IIRR the old versions of Mandrake I used allowed me each time that I logged in as a user either to go to my default window manager, at that time KDE, or GNOME, maybe you could have set it up for more. I did not know or care then.
Now I am using Ubuntu and GNOME. I seem indifferent to the differences between such things as KDE vs GNOME, etc. so I am perhaps not a good reviewer. I used kubuntu for a while It was fine for me. I am now using Ubuntu and find it does everything I need and is mostly just there and not something I think aboutor deal with. I have a lot of other things to do and would prefer to "never" think about issues like window managers. Give me one that works and let me forget the whole issue. I suspect that most users really do not care much one way or another which window manager is being used. So long as they follow fairly common convention the who cares? This kind of fetishism makes sense only for people who are deeply into this sort of thing and its detailed development. For many of us it is like being focused on a "hood ornament" http://tinyurl.com/yrrtxo Not really terribly important. BobLQ On 5/1/07, Nicholas Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What other distribution allows you to install window manager "X" at install time? Or pops up a dialog at first boot? It's pretty simple to download the kubuntu iso for KDE, or ubuntu iso for Gnome, or xubuntu iso for XFCE. On 5/1/07, Gabriel Sechan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >From: "Nicholas Wheeler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >You can install kubuntu...which is kde+ubuntu, or xubuntu, which is > >xfce+ubuntu. Or you could install ubuntu-server, and then apt-get > >install kubuntu-desktop(kde), ubuntu-desktop(gnome), or > >xubuntu-desktop(xfce). It's pretty simple. You can also install normal > >Ubuntu and use synaptic to install kubuntu-desktop, and you'll get a > >choice between kde/gnome. Can't imagine it being any simpler. > > > I can. I can imagine either > > 1)An install time option allowing you to choose. Whichever you choose is > installed. They can default it to whichever they wish, I'm not that picky. > > OR > > 2)Pop up a choose desktop dialog upon first boot > > OR > > 3)Install both, choose either you want as a default but provide an easy too > to switch between the two. For example, a GUI that pops up with a list of > desktops, and allows you to pick one. > > > Lets face it, for a desktop machine the number one concern is the window > manager. Not giving a choice in the matter, or requiring a user to jump > through hoops to get that choice, is completely unacceptable. I've seen any > of the 3 above options in use for the past decade, by a wide variety of > distros. Until Ubuntu starts using one of those or a close analog, I would > never, ever consider installing it. Its a moronic way of handling the > biggest part of a desktop machine. It can be as polished as it wants in > every other manner, if it doesn't let me pick my windowing environment, its > at the bottom of the list for usability. > > This isn't even a rant about wether KDE or Gnome or some other thing should > be the default, I really don't care. Its about ease of choice. If in order > to choose I need to jump through hoops, I'm using another distro. > > Gabe > > _________________________________________________________________ > Don't quit your job – Take Classes Online and Earn your Degree in 1 year. > Start Today! > http://www.classesusa.com/clickcount.cfm?id=866146&goto=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.classesusa.com%2Ffeaturedschools%2Fonlinedegreesmp%2Fform-dyn1.html%3Fsplovr%3D866144 > > > -- > [email protected] > http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list > -- Nicholas Wheeler Systems Administrator Development InfoStructure -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list
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