On Sun May 13 22:36 , 'James G. Sack (jim)' 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:

>Ralph wrote:
>>..
>>> Corollary: everything running within that X-instance is 
>> toast.
>> 
>> Well, that's where I must disagree.  In every instance 
where 
>> Mozilla got hosed, switching somewhere else then switching 
>> back would show a Mozilla title bar on a blank window.  
This 
>> Mozilla window continues to display correctly which leads 
me 
>> to believe that Mozilla is still fine.
>> 
>> It seems like something is stuck thinking that the icon I 
was 
>> dragging is still in the drag process, even though it has 
>> become detached from the mouse pointer.
>
>I have seen both behaviors. Usually when the app-windows get 
blanked
>further mouse clicks seem to make things pregressively worse, 
until even
>the keyboard processing such as Ctrl Alt F1 fails.
>
>I do not recall reviving a system from the state you have. A 
few times,
>it has gone unresponsive for (say) a minute or so -- but not 
like yours.
>
>Your suspicions could be right, but it would take an 
accredited X-wizard
>to know how to do anything about it, I guess.
>
>The fact that a memory dump does NOT show your text remains a 
hint (to
>me) that your email message is no longer in the process's 
memory map.
>Your previous question of whether it might be UTF8-encoded 
would only
>disguise some characters -- most of the bytes would be common 
7-bit
>ASCII, and unchanged in UTF8. It's possible that mozilla uses 
a 16bit
>internal encoding, I suppose. You might be able to test that 
in your
>second-X as another user. In my thunderbird dump I saw 
clearly readable
>text from my unsaved email. Of course, tbird and moz may use 
different
>internal encodings.
>
>Regards,
>..jim

On the console on F5, as a different user, I did "startx 
-- :2" (which came up on F10).  As the other user, I started 
Mozilla, then its email, then a new email in its email 
composer.  I typed a few test words, did a gcore on it and the 
text I had typed did *not* show up.

One other possibility just occurred to me.  Moving a window 
from one workspace to another inspired this idea.  Under 
normal conditions, you can right click on the title bar (or on 
the task's button) and select a move to a different workspace.

The X on F7 is unresponsive.  The X I'm using currently is on 
F9 (same user).

Is it possible (from X on F9) to grab Mozilla from X on F7 and 
pull it over here?

Perhaps it's ridiculous to think this may be possible, but 
hey, I can wish, right?

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