kelsey hudson wrote:

Ralph Shumaker wrote:

Isn't Linux nice?!?


Nice that it allows this without killing off the kernel? yes. Nice that this happens at all, however? Not in the least. It's little bullshit problems like this that make the current revisions of desktop environments reminiscent of window$.

Hence, the reason why today, I'm still using a window manager and refuse the refuse that is a desktop environment. I don't need that kind of junk getting in my way.

-Kelsey


In that case then, I would say that it's nice that Linux allows you that option. I doubt WindHose would.

But "reminiscent of window$"? WindHose would not have allowed me to switch to another console. It would not have allowed me to throw out the bathwater without sending the baby out with it.

It may have been a "little bullshit problem", but the solution was quite welcome, and even better, attainable.

I'm grateful that I lost almost nothing. It took 4 days of trying to figure out how to keep from losing a small but unique composition. The computer was still quite useful to me the whole time. I couldn't use Mozilla during that time (tho thankfully, Linux provides multiple browsers, most of which don't mind if you launch it multiple times at once). And because of consoles on F1 thru F6 and the command "man startx" leading me eventually to "startx -- :1", I was able to do everything I needed to do while learning more about the problem and possible solutions. And during that 4 days, I discovered a problem with my ISP's new webmail interface, *and* figured out a workaround for it. (Now, it's ready for the next time I need it.) And I now know that it's safe to go straight to "kill [gnome-panel]". That one single email was the only thing on hold during that 4 days. That was an inconvenience, as were the things that I learned, but I am now much better prepared for whatever interruption may or may not come next. In many, many ways, I'm still a Linux newbie. In other ways I'm not.

I *was* quite proficient with WindHose, but was (at every other turn) beating my head against the wall trying fix things that it would not allow me to fix. Where in Linux, there are multiple paths to a solution, in WindHose there are multiple locked Gates blocking me from success. And each successive version of WindHose found more of the paths to success and installed locked Gates on them as well.

I'm glad that there are teams of Linux programmers out there working on providing improved Desktops for the Linux community. I'm grateful that they work as well as they do. I'm ecstatic that there are so many paths in Linux to get to the guts. I'm in awe that Linux allows you to be a mechanic to its engine, *while* the engine is running!

I don't mind that I ran into this problem with gnome-panel. I'm currently thinking of searching/submitting a bug report for it (even though I don't enjoy dealing with bugzilla). Why? I'm not a programmer (well not to speak of). But I can help by outlining a problem that I found and a solution I found. This can help Linux along.

I don't know if WindHose now has a bugzilla of sorts or not. And I don't care.

"reminiscent of window$", *not*!



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