James G. Sack (jim) wrote: > James G. Sack (jim) wrote: >> rbw wrote: >>> .. >>> Regarding the CPU the following charts show that the "L" series Intel >>> Duo 2 Core processors are half the wattage drawing power as the "T" >>> series. I think I am going to hold out for the "L" series CPU's. I could >>> probably get away with the 35watt "T" series CPU's since I am almost >>> always plugged into the wall but waiting a bit longer will help save up >>> to max out the RAM to 4Gb right off the bat. I haven't seen anywhere >>> anyone can actually buy a laptop with one of these "L" series CPU's yet, >>> have you? >>> http://www.anandtech.com/mobile/showdoc.aspx?i=2985&p=2 >>> http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2808&p=3 >>> (In this second chart note how the only CPU w/o virtualization in the >>> CPU is anything with the "T5500" on it... Maybe that's why they are so >>> cheap... I want that L7500...) >>> >>> I saw a couple laptops at FRY's (all "T" series CPU's BTW) that came >>> with 2Gb of RAM at a price point of @$1,000 with RAM upgradeable to 4Gb. >>> I was thinking the same thing someone else mentioned... 'Is that 2 slots >>> w/ 1Gb ea.? and how much is a couple pieces of 3rd party 2Gb notebook >>> memory?' >>> >>> My specs are largely because I want all that RAM and all that CPU power >>> (at low, low wattage) to fully make ZEN and VMWare etc. really run >>> through its paces. For me one of the major factors is marginalizing >>> every operating system to a special case instance (translation: M$ can't >>> affect me anymore) which Linux already gives us the ability to do (see >>> the small Linux distro tread ;^) subject to available hardware. >>> Virtualization goes a very long way to making even hardware a moot point. >>> >>> There are several other things I would want to see if they were possible >>> beyond this ZEN virtual network magic but I'm only 1/3rd the way to >>> building up my savings so I have time to query those things. >>> >>> Let us know what you think and how it goes... >>> >>> rbw >>> >>> >> Ahh, I found the Intel intel: >> http://www.intel.com/products/processor_number/chart/coreduo.htm >> You are talking about the >> Intel® Core™ Duo processor Low Voltage >> (15W; there's also an "ultra low" 9W U-series listed there) >> >> They are still classified under the "centrino" name, whatever that >> really means. Curiously, the L-series does NOT show on their page entitled >> Intel® Centrino® Processor Technology >> http://www.intel.com/products/centrino/compare.htm >> >> All 3 L's are 65nm technology. Guess the low-voltage magic is a >> different technology dimension. >> >> I hadn't seen (or noticed) laptops with L-series chips, but a search on >> intel L2300 laptop (might try L2400 and L2500, too) >> does produce hits! Asus, Lenovo, ..? >> >> 15W sounds deliciously lo-cal, hmmm. > > Ahh, another look at the Intel page adds a bit more info: the L-series > is part of the "Intel® Core™ Duo" family, which means 32 bit, I believe. > I have also seen one review mention disappointing performance (with MS > Vista; but adequate with XP) on a 512MB L2300 4200rpm HD (I think). > > Don't know if 64bit really delivers anything (except bigger binaries), > but surely the future _is_ 64bit, so non-2 "Core Duo" has to be part of > the past, eh?
OK, read rbw's post more carefully, jim. The anandtech ref shows L7xxx Core 2 Duo animals. search on intel L7200 laptop yields a few significant hits. Asus keeps coming up. I didn't realize it, but they may be pretty big in the laptop market -- perhaps especially in the high-end market. search on intel U7500 laptop produces some hits, too! All these seem in the $2K (or higher!) range. I suspect that CBs and even splurging CBs need to wait 2-3 years before looking at those. I don't doubt there are selected people who do get real benefit from high-end boxen. But I'll get by with much less, thanks. Regards, ..jim -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list
