On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 23:46 -0700, Gus Wirth wrote:
> Lan Barnes wrote:
> > I need a low volt (0.9 V) way low amp LED for a science project. Radio
> > Shack is hopeless.
> > 
> > Can anyone remind me of that great hole-in-the-wall components store's
> > name or address?
> 
> 
> There is no such thing as an LED that operates in the visible spectrum 
> at a voltage less than about 1.2 volts. The lowest voltage LED's are red 
> (680 nm wavelength) and the voltage climbs as you move up in spectrum. A 
> blue LED (470 nm wavelength) needs about 3.8 volts to work.
> 
> Typical currents are about 10-20 milliamps for decent visibility on 
> standard brightness LED's.
> 
> I have a whole bunch of red and green LED's in my parts box. You're 
> welcome to have a few to play with.
> 
> If you are really limited in the voltage, it might be possible to build 
> a small inverter to step the voltage up. There used to be a great part 
> called an LM3909 <http://home.cogeco.ca/~rpaisley4/LM3909.html> that 
> worked as a voltage pump to flash an LED but they don't make them any 
> more. You could probably build something out of either a germanium 
> transistor (0.2 volts saturation) or maybe a specialty FET. I would do 
> it as a simple transformer coupled oscillator. Of course the efficiency 
> loss would probably kill your current consumption budget.
> 
> Gus

Newer LEDs are surprisingly bright at low currents. 
The forward voltage, however, is a hard limit. 

By sheer coincidence, I used a circuit to get enough voltage for a green
LED from only 700mV as proof-of-concept for wine:
http://www.kernel-panic.org/Members/cmaier/hamburger-lugnut-log/archive/2007/02/04/both-linuxes-emulate-windows-xp/
(by the way, Plone still doesn't work quite right, *&[EMAIL PROTECTED])
but you'd need an AC waveform for the charge pumps to work. 
It's not easy at all to build a DC to AC converter that works from
700mV. 

HTH 
Christoph



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