James G. Sack (jim) wrote:
Ralph Shumaker wrote:
James G. Sack (jim) wrote:
Ralph Shumaker wrote:
I don't know what I did, but [Alt][F10] (in gnome on FC7) used to
maximize the active window.  For some reason the right hand [Alt]
stopped functioning this way.  How do I fix this?

The choices on this config page seem designed with specific intent to
confuse

..but

You may find some options to experiment with at

 system > preferences > keyboard > layout options

Look at 'Group Shift/Lock behavior"
All seems fine here.

in addition to "Alt/Win key behavior"
This /seems/ all right with the setting of "Default", but I'm going to
try others.

How can I be sure that the right hand [Alt] key is even working?  I'm
currently getting no indication of it.  Well, I just answered my own
question (about it working).  This is a USB keyboard.  Once before I had
a problem with it ceasing to work during a session.  Hotplugging did not
help.  The PS2 keyboard would not work if plugged in hot.  IIRC, the
mouse still worked so I was able to save everything.  But it was such an
inconvenience that since that time I have left the PS2 keyboard plugged
in all the time.  I just tend to forget that it's there.  Anyway, I just
checked, and it exibits the same behavior.  So unless they both just
happen to have the right [Alt] key bad, ...

Enough poking around with different options led to the proper
frustration level and frame of mind to choose [Reset to defaults] which
promptly restored proper function.  Further tinkering revealed that the
mere *presence* of the spanish keyboard layout "Catalan" was the
culprit.  Present => malfunction.  Absent => OK.  All this is despite
the fact that the "U.S. English" layout was selected the whole time.

Further poking and changing reveals that it makes no difference which
keyboard I select (even U.S. English International).  The mere presence
of a second layout kills the right [Alt] key.

So much for a convenient way to type Spanish.

Strange.

Not that I type much of anything other than English, but I was
interested in finding out what the "gnome keyboard indicator" was some
time ago.

I remember having some troubles, but I didn't seem to keep any notes --
sorry, Anyway, I did end up with several alternatives, and it works as
expected, except that the layout view popup has many of the key legends
too small to read -- that's really annoying, and seriously detracts from
usability.

All I did was drag the window half way off the left side of the screen and dragged the right side of the window to the right side of the screen. This made the keys and symbols much easier to see.


[Fra]Oh, and another thing, once you get it zorking; [Deu]trz not to
qccidentqlly set the wrong lazout. [LAm]It can make things very hard to
read if you happen to land on letters that occur in places you are
unexpecting '' thoughÑ with LatinAmerican, it seems that most of the
qwerty keys are untouchedñ but, watch out for certain puncuation
surprises, eh_

Already well aware of that. But thanks for the heads up. There's much I don't know about keyboard layout options, so thanks.


Oh, BTW, I have set the "Third Level Choosers" option to "Menu key". If
you don't have one of those, the other choices seem workable.

Regards,
..jim

Thanks, but I can't use it, not in FC7 anyway. (I've lost a lot of functionality from FC4 to FC7.) If I add *any* secondary keyboard layout, my right hand [Alt] key will *not* work. If I need Spanish letters, I'll make a file with the characters I need and just do cut and paste. A real PITA, but less than not having my right [Alt] key.

(I'm unaware of "Third Level" stuff anyway.)


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Ralph

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It is a damn poor mind indeed which can't think of at least two ways to spell any word.
--Andrew Jackson


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