begin  quoting Christian Seberino as of Sat, Jul 14, 2007 at 01:09:37PM -0700:
> 
> Ever notice how happy you are when a GUI just feels familiar?

Not really. I'm often annoyed when one GUI "feels" almost-but-not-quite
like another GUI.

> Many interfaces today use the "Common User Access" (CUA) spec to achieve
> this.
>
> For example, do you like Ctrl-C/X/V for copy/cut/paste?

Nope.

Despise 'em. To me at least, ^C is "kill process", and it's just WRONG
to make it anything else, especially without replacing it. (And ^U is
"erase line", too!)

F1 should never be help -- use the "help" key on the keyboard for that.
(Many keyboards made over the years have had a help key.) In fact, there
should be /no/ "standard" definitions for Function keys -- those should
be left for the user to define/map as they choose.

>                                                          That is
> part of the CUA standard!  There are many other aspects of dialog boxes
> and other GUI widgets and things we can thank IBM for standardizing!

Faint praise.

> ..And, Microsoft Windows for promoting!!!

Damn faint praise.

> See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_User_Access .
 
Some of the decisons made in the name of standardization are ... silly.
Like the first menu being "File" and including a way to quit the
application.  Quitting an application has nothing to do with files.
Not all applications have anything to do with files. It seems like
someone got so eager to be the ones to promote a standard that they
picked any old "standard"...

Yah, yah, this is the way of the world. I should be used to it, but I
fail to see why it should make me *happy*.

> Well, I'm excited because it appears Emacs 22.1 is a new release 6 years
> in the making that follows CUA!!!  Ever notice how Emacs used to just
> somewhat "feel" like it was outdated?!? Well now that it uses GTK+ instead
> of Motif along with CUA it should look and feel much better.

My difficulties with emacs are on a totally different level. And does
this mean that emacs is no longer a text-only-friendly editor, but that
you /must/ use a GUI environment?

>                                                               This is
> huge.  Now you can do Ctrl-C/X/V in Emacs without having to write those
> commands in Lisp like I did among other niceties.

Isn't ^C and ^X already heavily used in Emacs?

Seems silly to remap such things.

> Hope that helps someone.

I expect it will help the Microsoft refugees a lot, and not many others.

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