begin quoting David Brown as of Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 05:20:55PM -0800: > On Wed, Dec 05, 2007 at 05:07:48PM -0800, SJS wrote: > > >No, and I won't. You floated a big number as an example of "not > >wheel-spinning", and alone, that isn't sufficient. Or even a good > >indicator, much less a refutation of wheel-spinning. > > Why is it any better than giving a different meaningless number out of a > bug tracking system. Without looking at the bugs you can't tell how > significant they are, so it doesn't tell you anything either.
Fixing a ton of small bugs constitutes progress. And it's a hell of a lot more credible than a lot of code changes constituting progress. That being said, it's possible to get wheel-spinning with a bug-tracking system -- the horror story of fixing one bug re-enabling another bug in an endless cycle is a distinct possibility -- but there's more hope of catching such a classic wheel-spinning cycle with a bug-tracking system. > I'm not going to post a changelog for the last four years of the linux > kernel development. It would be kind of silly, especially since it is all > readily available. Fine. But I'm not going to pore through that changelog either, and you can't reasonably expect me to do so. > But, to be quite honest, calling the work of current linux kernel > developers wheel-spinning is rather insulting. Hey, I wasn't trying to be insulting, I was just objecting to the astoundingly poor refutation of the accusation of wheel-spinning. > I joined this list rather recently, and am trying to get an idea of what > kind of group it is. So far, all I've really learned is that it doesn't > really have kernel developers on it, and the postings almost seem hostile > to kernel developers. I'm not sure I really would want to go to a regular > KPLUG meeting, or even continue on the mailing list. Nah, not hostile. Well, except me, when C++, python, or monocultures are advocated. I keep a special jar of froth near the keyboard, just for those topics. -- The Mean One. Stewart Stremler -- KPLUG-List@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list
