begin  quoting James G. Sack (jim) as of Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 06:42:22PM -0800:
> SJS wrote:
> > begin  quoting James G. Sack (jim) as of Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 04:26:06PM 
> > -0800:
> >> Tracy R Reed wrote:
> >>> James G. Sack (jim) wrote:
> >>>> Whether that's right or not, it's still convenient to call the resulting
> >>>> capabilities LVM. Now, it strikes me that the unique contribution by LVM
> >>>> is snapshot and data migration (pvmove). That is, could not the
> >>>> re-allocation stuff be done outside of LVM? Though I suppose, perhaps
> >>>> not as dynamically, eh?
> > 
> > Are those two contributions really unique?
> 
> Don't really know. They are not even quite "unrelated to each other", I
> suppose. Where else do we see snapshot or this kind of migration?
> 
>  Vmware?
>  XEN?
>  something similar in other OSes?

Snapshots have been around as long as we've been able to mount a file as
a partition.  Linux used to do that, back in the dark ages -- you could
set up a file on your MSDOS system and use that as your linux disk.

Even then, I wouldn't have thought the concept new.

I _suspect_ that Veritas does, and has done, this. However, I have never
used Veritas (to my knowledge, anyway).

[snip]
> > Aren't you talking about ZFS now? ;-)
> 
> Maybe? I know I've seen gripes about them short-circuiting the
> "layering". It's sometimes useful to reinvent the wheel, no?
> 
> >From wikipedia:
[snip]
> Hmmm, maybe that's had a subconscious impact on my question?

Could be. :)

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