begin  quoting Wade Curry as of Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:07:34AM -0700:
[snip]
> "Availability doesn't imply permission".  There.  No more analogy.
> Now explain why that principal doesn't apply simply because wifi
> signals are intangible.

What does imply permission, when we're talking about RF? There's
no sign, permission sheet, form, etc.

I rather think that with RF, availability *ought* to imply permission.

Otherwise, how do I know that I have permission to listen to 89.5 in
the car?  It's available... but if that doesn't imply permission,
then what would? Do I have to write the radio station a letter, asking
if I could kindly listen in to their broadcast?

[snip]
> Yes, it is your fault.  It is their fault they left the water on.
> It is *your* fault that you decided to grin and direct it to your
> pool to their detriment.  Common courtesy would lead you to walk
> over and turn it off for them.

Common courtesy mandates trespass?

I don't like that precedent at all.

[snip]
> > I didn't take it from 
> > you. *You* offered it to *me* by not confining it! 
>
> If they didn't want you to use it, they'd have locked it up, see?

What do they do if they *do* want me to use it?

Tough noogies, that sort of largesse isn't allowed? Everyone has to be a
tight-fisted screw, or else?

> It's their own fault if they don't secure every posession and
> signal.  How stupid can they be not to know that those around them
> won't act with a sense of dignity?  If their mailbox is out at the
> curb, I bet they aren't even smart enough to put a padlock on it!

Don't put a doorbell next to your door if you don't want me to ring it.

(I've met people that objected to the use of their doorbell. Their
indignation is very similiar to yours above. I never did figure out the
arcane rules of when it's appropriate to use a doorbell, and when not;
I think it involves telepathy.)

> > If anyone should be 
> > assaulted by lawyers over this, it should be the person sharing his 
> > ISP's bandwidth with the world, not the people just soaking up something 
> > that wandered uninvited into /their/ house.
>
> Amen, and amen!  They paid for it and are sharing.  *Both* of those
> acts deserve the scrutiny of a lawyer.  And they sent it wandering into
> your house and it sat next to you on the sofa!  You may as well
> sponge ... I mean soak it up!

Well, if you get me an EMP generator on the cheap, I'm sure I could
fix the problem.

-- 
Eat Hot Photons, Beat Electrons,
Farm out Grevious Bodily Harm.
Stewart Stremler


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