Lan Barnes wrote:
> On Thu, March 27, 2008 4:43 pm, David Brown wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 04:05:34PM -0700, Lan Barnes wrote:
>>
>>> I completely disagree. Successful progress should be silent. If
>>> reassurance is necessary, a -v or -h (as in "print hash marks") can be
>>> added.
>> It's fine that you disagree, but not very significant.  A vast majority of
>> users want/need progress.  User interface guidelines require it.
> 
> Whose interface guidelines, we ask.
> 

It's not at all hard to find guidelines to quote. Here's one, I think:

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/us-progind/index.html?dwzone=usability


But the real answer is "it depends" (of course).
HCI requirements depend on the human, the computer, the purpose and
various details of the interface, and --no doubt-- plenty of additional
considerations.

Some guidelines deal with situations where it is considered a defect if
results do not occur "immediately". Guidelines _for such cases_ always
say something like: if results are not expected (within the current
definition of) "instantly" then give <the kinds of feedback discussed
above>.

I suspect it's even hopeless to define a single set of HCI requirements
 that apply even to the UNIX command line environment. It differs for
the operation (date .. fsck .. dvdrecord), the user (-q -v options
helpful here!), etc.

So what? Well, I think if program Z doesn't meet your particular HCI
requirements, you should look for another program, or a way to adapt
(maybe a wrapper). It's probably a waste of time to argue (much) about
the choice of HCI requirements that program Z seems to target.

Regards,
..jim


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