begin  quoting Gabriel Sechan as of Fri, May 16, 2008 at 01:30:59PM -0500:
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can't you arrange for some sort of one-line attribution? It makes it
difficult to correctly identify the proper quote levels.

[snip]
> > The applicant can be expected to have to explain their code in detail.
> > If they don't understand it they obviously copied or got help which they
> > were not worthy of and don't get hired.
> >
> > Whiteboard programming sucks. I much prefer this approach.
> >
> I'm completely the other way.  Whiteboard programming is necessary.

...and that's why I don't think the question is about programming skill.
I think it's about *standards*.  They're asking you to submit professional
quality code... this is a way to ask you what you think "professional"
code looks like, really, truly.

In which case, the offline case is great.  Getting help from others
is okay. They don't care.

They're getting a baseline for *standards*.

And know this doesn't help, because they've given no hint as to what
they're looking for: it's just as easy to turn in over-commented and
over-polished code (the applicant spends way too much time making the
code pretty as opposed to understandable and reasonably bug-free) as
under-commented and under-polished code (WTF, we don't want this kind
of code in our codebase!).

[snip]
> you that.  A mail in-  I'd give odds that most submissions were done
> by someone else,  its pretty much useless.  I wouldn't hire someone
> without seeing him code in person, and if I was the job seeker I'd be
> *very* leery of taking a job where I was asked to program ahead of
> time and not in the interview-  I'd expect the majority of my
> coworkers would have had someone else take the test.
[snip]

If you have high enough (but not too high) standards, the rest will
come with experience.

-- 
At least, that's the sort of thing I would do.
Stewart Stremler


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