Ralph Shumaker wrote:
> DJA wrote:
>> James G. Sack (jim) wrote:
>>> Ralph Shumaker wrote:
>>>> Ralph Shumaker wrote:
>>>>> As I go from one (plain text) message to the next, Thunderbird
>>>>> sometimes displays one message (or a string of them) with a nice
>>>>> font.  Others are displayed in a freakish font that is barely
>>>>> readable.  Increasing the font size helps the bad one from about 50%
>>>>> ease of readability to about 90%.  The other one just becomes more
>>>>> pleasant, but a have to page down more.
>>>>>
>> [snip]
>>>> Going back and forth between some of the emails, and noticing that all
>>>> emails seemingly were consistently shown with either the good font or
>>>> the bad one, I decided to investigate further.
>>>>
>> [snap]
>>>> It seems that it originates with only emails from a few individuals:
>>>> jim
>>>> DJA
>>>> Brad Beyenhof
>>>> David De Lucca
>>>> Jean Br�fort
>>>> Louis Luangkesorn
>>>> philip
>>>> Phil Karn
> 
> This is interesting.  Before you replied to my email, Content_Type was
> not set to UTF-8, and Jean Brefort's name correctly displayed an
> accented e.  But now, it displays a white question mark in a black diamond.
> 
> [snip]
>>>
>>> The clue might be with header lines
>>>  Content-Type:
>>> or possibly
>>>  Content-Transfer-Encoding:
> 
> Well, going down through my kplug folder, every message that displays
> with the bad font does indeed have UTF-8 in Content-Type.
> 
> For Content-Transfer-Encoding, some offending messages say
> quoted-printable, others say 7-bit.  But this seems to make no
> difference.  It appears that it is the UTF-8 in the Content-Type that's
> doing it.
> 
> How can I make UTF-8 display with a more sane font?
> 
> My tBird is v:2.0.0.14 (20080501) with all the updates via yum on Fedora 8.
> 
>>>
>>> Or is could be with your own thunderbird? What version are you using,
>>> and what are the settings on the "Preferences > Display > Fonts and
>>> Encodings" dialog?
> 
> Western (ISO-8859-1) for Outgoing and Incoming Mail, with both
> checkboxes *not* checked.
> 
> In the upper portion of the dialog:
> Fonts for [Western]
> Proportional [Serif] Size [16]
> Serif [serif]
> Sans-serif [sans-serif]
> Monospace [monospace] Size [12]
> Minimum font size [None]
> [   ] Allow messages to use other fonts
> 
> Can I over ride the ugly font used to display UTF-8 without messing up
> formatted emails, formatted with html or whatnot?

Let's blame it all on DJA. :-) --or his old version of tbird, anyway.

Looking at copies of this thread in my "trash",
 you sent original encoded as iso8859-1 (with e-acute)
 I replied with same encoding with same e-acute
 DJA replied to my reply in utf8 but bad e-acute (wasn't re-encoded?)
   DJA's settings force replies to be utf8, but the evidence
   seems to be that tbird 1.5.0.12 doesn't properly re-encode

Regards,
..jim


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