Paul G. Allen wrote:
Ralph Shumaker wrote:

(I hate how badly the digital broadcast TV fails. It's either very good with no glitchiness (or nearly none), or it's insanely bad. It should degrade gracefully, but absolutely does not!!!)


With the current technology in use, this can't be done. The compression technique used does not lend itself to very graceful failure. If part of the information that is sent to your receiver has a glitch, then there is a good chance the entire frame, or several frames, will be FUBAR.

The data is not sent as a constant stream as in analog TV. It's sent as separate packets of information that must be reassembled in the receiver in order to reproduce each frame or an entire set of frames. If the right information is missing, for whatever reason, you might miss an entire section of the broadcast.

What gets me the most about this, is having a vague awareness of holographic concepts. Take a frame of 35mm film that has an image holographically stored on it, cut it in half, and each has all the visual information, except each half has only half the clarity. Look at either half straight on, and the other half of the image is not visible. Lean outward, away from the cut line, and like looking around a corner, you can see the rest. In other words, cutting it in half, the image loses clarity, degrading gracefully, but the whole image is still there.

I've probably butchered the description for anyone who understands it better than I do, but this is a decent description of how the analog TV signal degrades. Even when the picture is so bad that it is nearly imperceptible, it is often possible to follow what's going on with just the sound. This is not even close to being the case with digital TV.

I'd like to have the people who are responsible for forcing the switch to be forced to watch digital broadcast TV at my house for a few days.


Whet pisses me off about digital TV is that even with the best HD signal source, the picture sucks. We really are getting shafted by what they charge as compared to what they give us and most of us don't even know it.

PGA

What they give as opposed to what they pretend to give, yeah, I can understand your discontent. But I'd be happy to have a signal that degrades gracefully.

Being interested in something when all of a sudden the picture degrades badly is one thing, and not nearly so bad if I can still hear what's going on. But the audio degrades so badly that I don't have any idea what is going on or being said, in addition to not being able to see what's happening. It's ludicrous.

Airplanes mess with the signal terribly for about 30 seconds at a time. But helicopters make me *really* wish for someone with ground-to-air toys.

I've seen the same /graceful/ degradation on my friend's digital Cox signal. And I highly doubt that aircraft have anything to do with *that*.



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