On Apr 10, 2005, at 10:51 AM, Stewart Stremler wrote:

One of the criticisms frequently aimed at Java is that too many newbie
programmers are writing (bad) Java programs.  I think it's a great
second or third language*, and is a better first language than many
alternatives.

Gee, which language provides us with all of those buffer overflow exploits? I can level the same criticism at C.


My opinion is that Java and Visual Basic get so much bad press because they are the common languages, and 90% of everything is crap. Consequently, the 90% of junk produced by Java and VB coders dwarfs the 90% of junk produced in other languages.

I would also argue that there is some self-selection going on. Any programmer who takes the time to learn a second programming language is *by definition* part of the 10%. Any programmer who takes the time to learn a programming language that will not necessarily enhance their job prospects is probably even further up the skill curve.

There are a number of languages that are built on _TOP_ of Java and
leverage its platform-independence that might be a better fit for the
porting from PHP. If you don't like Java syntax, you can still leverage
the rest of the system.

Sure, but it's not really the platform independence that they are leveraging. It's the pre-built libraries that everybody likes.


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