The simplest cost-benefit analysis on a death in the field would show you
how silly your position is.

But you're very cocksure, so I won't argue it with you. But I wouldn't
pour out your certitude on this if you ever interview at a medical device
company.

On Tue, December 12, 2006 2:55 pm, Andrew Lentvorski wrote:
> Lan Barnes wrote:
>
>> This is absolutely flat ass wrong, Stewart. I don't say that to you
>> often
>> -- this may be the first time -- but it is not "wasteful to try to catch
>> as many defects as possible up front," it is the best and most cost
>> effective approach.
>
> I wholeheartedly disagree.
>
> That thinking killed DEC.  That thinking holds back medical devices.
>
> Catching defects *must* be balanced against shipping a product.
>
> DEC could have shipped EV6 at least 12 months earlier.  Had they, the
> company would probably still be around.  However, there was no incentive
> to ship.  The only reward was to be a notch higher on the next project.
>   That meant "don't ever make a mistake as your career will never
> recover."  Lots of "defect" catching and testing ensued.  The fact that
> the company was going down the drain never entered the picture.
>
> My favorite in medical devices is implantable continuous insulin
> delivery systems.  Since the medical defect level is *zero*--cannot fail
> or we wind up in the headlines--they do not make them.  However, nobody
> ever balances the improvement in quality of life from the shipped
> product against the possible defects.  A device which completely
> alleviated the symptoms of diabetes in 99% of people but killed 1% is
> probably a net win since the complications from diabetes eventually kill
> people anyhow.
>
> However, nobody is ever willing to have that discussion.
>
> I always love the medical device "no defects".  Excuse me, but the
> system, known as the human body, you are trying to fix isn't that
> reliable or you wouldn't be needing to fix it.
>
>> The longer you take to find a defect, the more its effects spread out,
>> the
>> more defects you introduce in your "five minutes to fix."
>>
>> This isn't Lan talking. Lan doesn't know much. This is an avalanche of
>> opinion from brilliant, experienced professionals who have studied
>> exactly
>> this question over four decades.
>
> No argument.  However, sometimes the cost is acceptable.
>
> This is especially true when *not* having the shipped product also has a
> cost.  The problem is that nobody ever adds that into the equation.
>
> -a
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