On 6/19/07, Stewart Stremler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
begin  quoting James G. Sack (jim) as of Tue, Jun 19, 2007 at 03:35:38PM -0700:
[snip]
> Actually, don't you really have to consider command-line (ex?) and
> visual (^v) as modes distinct from the *normal* (command) mode.

Well, : indicates a return-terminated command.

And ^v is a vimism, isn't it?


As far as I can tell, the "return to visual" command is "vi".  It's
that way in the oldest manual I can easily lay my hands on (BSD 1994)
and is still true for the "vim" that I have here under my fingertips.

Quit visual and enter "ex" is Q

> IIRC, vim docs lists even more things under the name of /mode/.

Well, it kinda grew towards being like emacs, which is the all-singing
all-dancing kitchen-sink editor.

> All things considered, though, the remarks about esc-terminated commands
> is helpful in teaching and understanding.

Well, if the person doesn't already think in modes, sure.

--
Happier with modes.
Stewart Stremler

Think you would just love TECO.  One of the sad days of my life came
when I was making for my class an intro sheet for the DEC RT-11
Editor, and discovered that EDIT-11 was a proper subset of TECO with
nearly all the command names changed.  But the EDIT-11 commands had
gotten wired into my fingertips.

   carl
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