--- Ralph Shumaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Gunn wrote: > > --- Barry Gershenfeld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>>> I wouldn't expect sane folks to try to run > >>>> > >> analog bits through that, but > >> > >> > .............................................^^^^^^^^^^ > >> > >>> Just wondering: is there a formal definition of > >>> > >> /analog bits/? ;-) > >> > >>>> since there exist USB sound cards, I have to > say > >>>> > >> it's entirely likely > >> > >>>> that's how it works (as a winmodem, that is). > >>>> > >>> ..jim > >>> > >> I will answer with a hesitant "yes". USB working > >> groups have taken it upon > >> themselves to define "device classes", of which > the > >> Mass Storage class is > >> probably the best known. So there's an Audio > Class, > >> which is probably > >> where this is found. I slogged around in that > >> document for a bit looking > >> for "modem" and there was no outright admission > of > >> such. There are lots of > >> references to CDC, the Communications Device > Class, > >> which is supposed to be > >> the fake serial port business; and DOCSIS, which > is > >> all about cable modems > >> (and again, not likely any analog treatment). > >> Winmodem type activity is > >> probably done by using pieces of one or more > >> services in the audio class > >> (did I mention this stuff is complicated?). > Also, a > >> lot of the classes are > >> "under development", probably in the way that > ipv6 > >> is. But my eyes are > >> once again glazing over, and I'll let others do > any > >> further research. > >> > >> Barry > >> > >> > >> -- > >> KPLUG-Newbie@kernel-panic.org > >> > >> > > > http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-newbie > > > > > > One more search on Google Groups resulted in this > > discussion with the title, "URRobotics 56K* V.92+ > > Faxmodem USB." > > > > http://sysadminforum.com/showthread.php?t=1565821 > > > > It really doesn't look good for the use of this > modem > > in Linux. > > > > In the end, the questioner decides to go with a > serial > > modem connected through a USB-RS232 adapter. If > you > > decide to go that route I can recommend the Best > Data > > 56K V.92/V.44 External Data/Fax Modem. After years > > going through countless serial modems trying to > > improve my Internet experience, I found it to the > the > > best. It supports V.44 compression. Many modems > > calling themselves V.92 compliant, don't highlight > the > > fact that they do not bother to implement that. > > > > That being said, you should really try to avoid > > relying on a serial modem for Internet access. DSL > or > > cable are not only faster in degree, but enough > faster > > to provide a different experience. > > > > John Gunn > > > > Thanks John. The last time I considered DSL, SBC > was requiring a 12 > month contract. But I had remembered someone here > on the list having > this contract and never having a working DSL, yet > being forced to pay > for it anyway. I was not prepared to take that > chance, especially since > they were charging more per month than what seems to > be offered now. > > There was recently a thread about the various DSL > offerings. I doubt > that I erased any of those. I'll go back and review > them. I'll > probably go DSL since it's not much more than I pay > for dialup. > > But I have heard that DSL sometimes goes down for > varying periods of time. > > So I would still want an external dialup modem as a > backup. It would > not have to be USB. My computer *does* have an > unused COM1 port (don't > know the name of the port in Linux, perhaps ttyS??). > Do you know if DSL > offers a dialup line as a backup? > > The most infuriating thing about my internal modem > is when it is > sufficiently confused, nothing short of a system > power down will > suffice. And *sometimes*, it requires several of > those. I despise > having to try to get my operating environment back > the way I had it. > > Although,,, now that I think about it,,, I might > have a different way of > doing it now. Since I moved to FC7, I now have the > Hibernate option > when choosing shutdown. I have noticed that this > option does > effectively power down AND comes back to the same > environment. However, > I have not yet tested to see how the modem (working > or frozen) behaves > thru this. I think I will try that the next time my > modem becomes > braindead. > > It's odd how natural it is to continue to assume the > same conditions and > options after having exhausted all possibilities at > the time. Even tho > I saw what Hibernate does, it never occurred to me > that it could have a > side effect of resetting my modem. > > I doubt there is anyone else out there still using > dialup (especially on > an internal modem), but I'll still report an update > after my modem > freezes again and I try this approach. > > By the way, after several emails with a seemingly > braindead staff at USR > who repeatedly answered a question I was *not* > asking, I finally got a > response just this morning from one enlightened > fellow who confirmed > that the USR USB modem in question is *indeed* a > winmodem. That was an > exercise in frustration! I hate when people think > that what I'm > *really* asking is something other than what I go > into great painstaking > detail to ask! But so it goes. > > Then again, on rare occasion, this "shift from the > question I ask" does > occasionally yield better results, like John Gunn's > suggestion about > DSL. Several months ago, this suggestion would not > have been a > consideration. Furthermore, it gave me just the > kick I needed to > reassess my *current* options for resetting my > modem. > > My thanks to all of you. > > > -- > > Ralph > > -------------------- > How do you test an uncooperative intelligence when > it's smarter than you? --Stewart Stremler > > -- > KPLUG-Newbie@kernel-panic.org > http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-newbie >
DSL sounds like a good choice for you. I know it was for me. The recent thread you referred to was started by me in June and extended into July. It was titled "Need Faster Internet Connection," and can be found starting at http://www.kernel-panic.org/pipermail/kplug-newbie/2007-June/thread.html and ending at http://www.kernel-panic.org/pipermail/kplug-newbie/2007-July/thread.html I decided to go with DSL Extreme and have been happy with the service. It has yet to go down and I haven't even been aware of it's slowing down. For an additional $5/mo. they offer a dial-up connection. My work is not so critical that I can't wait while a problem is resolved so I decided to forgo that option. John Gunn ____________________________________________________________________________________ Got a little couch potato? Check out fun summer activities for kids. http://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=oni_on_mail&p=summer+activities+for+kids&cs=bz -- KPLUG-Newbie@kernel-panic.org http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-newbie
