John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > Gus Wirth wrote: >> I say we don't touch it and instead promise not to put e-mail addresses >> in subject lines. > > I agree with the first half, but not the second. How can it > realistically be enforced? Ban those that put an email in a Subject: > line? Currently, we can't use technological means to munge email adress > looking things in the sunbject line. > > Addtionally, I am no fan of munging to begin with. > > > The best that I can do is offer appologies for the initial posting.
I see that mailman added subject line obfuscation in svn release 7574 [oct 2005]. http://mailman.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/mailman/trunk/mailman/Mailman/Archiver/HyperArch.py?r1=7505&r2=7574 I note that the kplug archive site footnote says mailman v 2/1/5 [which is svn r7101, may 2004]. If this is correct, then the mailman in use seems kind of old. [flame-bait?] Is this what one has to be willing to accept to get the benefit of debian stability? Oh, well, I suppose this may be only one small wart in the larger view of things. In our thousands of archived messages, I bet there is only one thread like this. But mailman patch 7574 seems to agree with the thought that the exposure of email addresses in subject lines is worth correcting even though it may be unlikely. I'm feeding this thread because I got another email from Helge this morning, in which he acknowledges the simple obfuscation within the message, but objects again to the subject-line being exposed. He also asks somewhat more politely than before: "please remove my address or the page in question" I'm thinking that if I objected to my address accidentally getting into a subject line, and complained about getting a lot of spam because of it, that my gripe _might_ be taken a little more seriously than Helge's. Anyone will recognize that we cannot retract, repair, or expunge anything outside of our little piece of the internet, but should we not at least evaluate how much effort it is to correct these 20 or so messages in our archive database? It's not a really big thing .. sorry if this post sounds alarmist .. but is seems to me we _should_ look into it a bit more. As a matter of curiosity, how would one edit archive content. I can't seem to find any docs for a mailman tool to do that. A quick glance at source code suggests archives might be python's pickel format? But then there are indices to contend with, and html rendering. So it offers some interesting complexity, eh? Oh wait, I just found this http://www.python.org/cgi-bin/faqw-mm.py?req=show&file=faq03.003.htp which suggests editing the raw mbox file, and then rebuilding (with ./bin/arch). I wonder how much of a job that might be for -steer from September 2006 (assuming it's isolated to a one-month mbox file). Regards, ..jim -- [email protected] http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-steer
