Neil Schneider wrote:
> Joshua Penix wrote:
>> On Jan 24, 2008, at 4:17 PM, James G. Sack (jim) wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone feel comfortable comparing (or moderating) KDE vs Gnome?
>> I don't know that a "vs" setup would be worthwhile, but this tickles
>> an idea I've had in the back of my head for a year or two...
> 
> Well compare and contrast would be more useful. But I like the idea below.
> 
>> How about a series of presentations that focus not on desktop
>> environment features or comparisons but instead on ways of getting
>> more out of your chosen desktop, as demonstrated by expert users?  I'd
>> like to see power users of some of the common desktop environments
>> give a 30-45-minute-ish presentation on what their daily workflow
>> looks like and what features of their desktop they use to their
>> advantage.
> 
> I like this idea a lot. But I think instead of having Gnome and KDE on the
> same night, maybe do something like KDE and Fluxbox, or Gnome & Windowmaker.
> KDE and Gnome may be a lot different underneath, but the interfaces look very
> similar to me. Comparing something like Windowmaker with its icons and root
> window menus to something like Gnome with it's "Windows like" task bar would
> be more interesting. If we could get two displays up at once, it would be
> interesting to see how you accomplish similar tasks in the different GUIs.
> 
>> Windowmaker, for example, is a common power user desktop used by at
>> least John and Neil.  I've tried Windowmaker myself, but found the
>> strange concepts of the clip and dock a little foreign, and wasn't
>> sure how to best take advantage of them.  Watching John simply *use*
>> his desktop for 20 minutes would probably teach me more than I could
>> get in four hours of documentation reading.
> 
> I wouldn't consider myself a power user. I just prefer the "Next style"
> interface to Windows. But I've never been much of a Windows user so I don't
> have a distaste for anything that looks like it. I did use fvwm95 when I first
> started with Linux.
> 
>> Common DE's that should definitely be covered (need volunteers!):
>>   - Gnome
>>   - KDE
>>   - XFCE
>>   - Windowmaker
>>
>> More obscure DE approaches that might be interesting:
>>   - Ratpoison or one of the other "window-less" window managers
>>   - Open/Black/Fluxbox
>>   - Emacs (LOL!)
>>   - ???
>>
>> And to be really complete, considering the sheer quantity of OS X
>> users in KPLUG, a Mac desktop demo would probably be of interest.  I
>> could also see value in doing a Windows demo showing how to get the
>> most Unix-y experience out of it, considering that Linux guys often
>> get stuck on a Windows machine from time to time.
>>
>> I could see this actually being a 2-3 meeting series, since we'd want
>> to leave ample room for Q&A.
> 
> So does that mean than you would actually grace us with your presence and
> perhaps even participate, by presenting one of the interfaces?
> 

Hear! Hear!

would it be feasible for someone to act as a driver / demo-er, and try
to illustrate features or practices suggested from the audience?

Regards,
..jim

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