Hi

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Thanks

Pierre

On Wed, 02 Oct 2024, 08:40 KR-List Digest Server, <kr-list@matronics.com>
wrote:

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>                      Total Messages Posted Tue 10/01/24: 2
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>
> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
>      1. 11:08 PM - Official KR-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
> (Matt Dralle)
>      2. 11:19 PM - Official KR-List Usage Guidelines  (Matt Dralle)
>
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 1
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:08:09 PM PST US
> From: Matt Dralle <dra...@matronics.com>
> Subject: KR-List: Official KR-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions)
>
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> Please read over the KR-List Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) below.  The
> complete KR-List FAQ including the Usage Guidelines can be found at the
> following URL:
>
>    http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/KR-List.FAQ.html
>
> Thank you,
>
> Matt Dralle
> Matronics Email List Administrator
>
>
> [ Note: This FAQ was designed to be displayed with a fixed width font such
> as
>          Courier.  Proportional fonts will cause display formatting
> errors. ]
>
>
>    This FAQ can also be viewed in HTML online at the following address:
>
>                  http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/KR-List.htm
>
>
>         ************************************************************
>         ******* LIST POLICIES AND FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS *******
>         ************************************************************
>
>
> PLEASE READ.  This document contains KR-List policies and information
> for new and old subscribers.  Understanding the KR-List policies will
> minimize problems for the Administrator, and will help keep the KR-List
> running smoothly for all of us.
>
>
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> ******************************************
>
>    There are many features available on the Matronics Email Lists and each
>    one is described in detailed below.  However, using the List Navigator
>    you can quickly access the complete set of features available for this
>    List.  The List Navigator can be found at the following URL:
>
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>
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>
>    Simply go to the Web Page shown below and enter your email address and
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>    may also use the handy "Find" function to determine the exact syntax of
>    your email address as it is subscribed to the List.  Please see the
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>    The Subscribe/Unsubscribe web page is:
>
>                  http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
>
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>    process.  The first verifies that your subscription/unsubsciption
> request
>    was received, and the second confirms that the process has been
> completed.
>
>    You should receive the first email within a few minutes of your
> request.
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> post
>
>    until you receive the second conformation email message.
>
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
>    When a new post is received by the system, the From: line of the message
>    is checked and compared against the current subscription list.  If the
>    email address is found, the message is passed on to the List Processor.
>    If the email address isn't found in the current list of subscribers, it
>    is dumped.  This serves to very effectively thwart 99% of the SPAM that
>    gets posted to the Lists.
>
>    Remember, however, that the syntax of your email address is very
> important
>    with regard to the configuration of your email application such as
> Outlook
>    or Eudora.  For example, the following two email addresses may be
>    functionally equivalent, but only one would pass the Matronics Email
> SPAM
>    test depending on which was syntax was subscribed to the given List:
>
>                   sm...@machine.domain.com
>
>                   sm...@domain.com
>
>   Either email address syntax is alright, just be sure that you configure
>   your email application to match *exactly* the address you've subscibed
> to
>   the List.
>
>
> **************************************
> *** Enclosure Support on the Lists ***
> **************************************
>
>    Limited posting of enclosures such as pictures, documents, and
> spreadsheets
>    is supported on the Lists.  There are a number of restrictions, and
> these
>    are detailed below.  Please abide by the rules put forth regarding the
>    content of enclosures.
>
>    These are some of the features and limits of enclosures on the
> Matronics
>    Lists:
>
>    1) Enclosures will only be posted to the Real Time version of the Lists.
>
>    2) Enclosures will NOT be included in the Daily Digest version of the
> Lists.
>
>    3) Enclosures WILL BE forwarded on to the BBS Forum Web site.
>
>    4) Enclosures will NOT be appended to the Archives.
>
>    5) Enclosures will NOT be available in the List Browse feature.
>
>    6) Only the following file types and extensions will be allowed:
>
>                  bmp doc dwg dxf gif jpg pdf png txt xls
>
>       All other enclosures types will be rejected and email returned to
>       sender.  The enclosure types listed above are relatively safe from
>       a virus standpoint and don't pose a particularly large security risk.
>
>    7) !! All incoming enclosures will be scanned for viruses prior to
> posting
>       to the List.  This is done in real time and will not slow down
>       the process of posting the message !!
>
>
>    Here are some rules for posting enclosures.  Failure to abide by these
> rules
>
>    could result in the removal of a subscriber's email address from the
> Lists.
>
>    1) Pay attention to what you are posting!!  Make sure that the files
>       you are enclosing aren't HUGE (greater that 1MB).  Remember that
> there
>       are still people checking they're email via dial up modem.  If you
> post
>       30MB worth of pictures, you are placing an unnecessary burden on
> these
>       folks and the rest of us, for that matter.
>
>    2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES DOWN!!!  I don't want to see huge 3000 x 2000
>       pictures getting posted that are 3 or 4MB each.  This is just
>       unacceptable.  Use a program such as Photoshop to scale the picture
>       down to something on the order of 800 x 600 and try to keep the
>       file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less.
>
>       Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows
>       you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically
>       scale it down and resave it.  This is a great utility - get it, use
> it!
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
>       Look for the link "Image Resizer"
>
>    3) !! This would seem to go without saying, but I'll say it anyway.  Do
> not
>       post anything that would be considered offensive by your grandmother.
>       And you know what I'm saying; I don't want to see anything even
>       questionable. !!
>
>    4) REMEMBER THIS: If you post a 1MB enclosure to a List with 1000
> members
>       subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting
>       to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!!  BE CAREFUL and
>       BE COURTEOUS!
>
>    Also see the section below on the Matronics Photo and File Share where
>    you can have your files and photos posted on the Matronics web server
>    for long time viewing and availability.
>
>
> *******************
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> *******************
>
>    Each day, starting at 12 midnight PST US, a new 'digest' will be
> started.
>    This digest will contain the same information that is currently
> appended
>    to the archive file.  It has all of the headers except for the "From:"
>    and "Subject:" lines removed, and includes a message separator
> consisting
>    of a line of underscores.
>
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>    combined and sent as a single message to everyone on the digest email
> list.
>
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>    described above, and just select the Digest version of the List.
>
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>
>    Note that you *can* be subscribed to both the realtime and digest
> versions
>    of the List at the same time.  This is perfectly acceptable.
>
>   Now some caveats:
>
>    * Messages sent to "kr-list-digest" will be forwarded to the standard
>      email list.  In other words, you cannot post messages only to the
>      digest List.
>
>    * If you are subscribed to both the regular List and the digest List,
> you
>      will receive the realtime postings as well as the digest at the end of
>      the day.
>
>    * If you reply to the digest email, your message will be forwarded to
> the
>      normal list associated with the digest.  Important Note:  Please
> change
>      the subject line to reflect the topic of your response!  Also, please
>      *do not include all or most of the digest in your reply*.
>
>
> ****************************
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> ****************************
>
>    An archive of all the List Digests can be found online in either plain
> text
>    or HTML format.  These archives contain the exact Digest that was
> posted to
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> found
>    at the following location:
>
>                  http://www.matronics.com/digest
>
>
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> *****************************************
>
>    At times, your message may concern something that is revelent only to a
> very
>
>    small number of persons or to a limited area, and you may not wish to
> archive
>
>    it.  In such a case, simply put the following phrase anywhere in the
>    message:
>
>                  do not archive
>
>    Your message will not be appended to the archive, but will be sent to
> List
>    email distribution as normal.
>
>
> **********************************************
> ***** READ THIS - Automatic Unsubscribes *****
> **********************************************
>
>    Note that if your email address begins to cause problems such as bounced
>    email, mailbox is filled, or any other errors, your address will be
> promptly
>    removed from the List.  If you discover that you are no longer receiving
>    messages from the KR-List, go to the following Web page, and look
>    for your email address and a possible reason for your removal.
>
>    The Matronics Email List uses utility called the "Email Weasel" that
>    automatically looks though the day's bounced email for addresses that
>    caused problems due to common things like "user is unknown", "mailbox
>    full", etc.  If the Email Weasel removes your email address from the
>    Lists you will find record of it at the following URL:
>
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>
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>    free to resubscribe to the Lists of your choice.
>
>
> *******************************
> *** List Member Information ***
> *******************************
>
>    If you have not done so already, please email me your phone numbers and
>    paper mail address in the following format:
>
>                  sm...@somehost.com
>                  Joe Smith
>                  123 Airport Lane
>                  Tower, CA 91234-1234
>                  098-765-1234 w
>                  123-456-7890 h
>
>    Please forward this information to the following email address:
>
>                  reque...@matronics.com
>
>    I have a file of such things, that I typically use to contact you when
>    there are problems with your email address.  The information will NOT
>    be used for any other commercial purpose.
>
>
> ****************************************
> *** Realtime Web Email List Browsing ***
> ****************************************
>
>    Recent messages posted to the KR-List are also made available on
>    the Web for realtime browsing.  Seven days worth of back postings are
>    available with this feature.  The messages can be sorted by Subject,
>    Author, Date, or Message Thread.  The Realtime List Browser indexes are
>    updated twice per hour at xx:15 and xx:45.  You can also reply to a
> message
>
>    or start a new message directly from the List Browser Interface (coming
> soon).
>    You do not have to be subscribed to the given list to use the List
>    Browser Interface in view-mode.
>
>                  http://www.matronics.com/browselist/kr-list
>
>
> *******************************************
> *** Web Forums Bulletin Board Interface ***
> *******************************************
>
>    A phpBB BBS web Forums front end is available for all KR-List content.
>    content.  The Forums contain all of the same content available via the
> email
>
>    distribution and found on the various archive viewing formats such as
> the
>    List Browse, etc.  Any posts on the web Forums will be cross posted to
> the
>    respective email List, and posts to the Email List will be cross posted
> to
>    the web Forums.
>
>    You may view all List content on the Forums without any special login.
>    If you wish to post a message via the Web Forum interface, however, you
>    will need to Register.  This is a simple process that takes only a few
>    minutes.  A link to the Registration page can be found at the top of the
>    main web Forums page.  Note that registering on the Forum web site also
>    enables you to send email posts to the Lists as well.  You will also
> need to
>
>    Subscribe to the respective Email List as described above to receive the
>    Email Distribution of the List, however.
>
>    The Matroincs Email List Web BBS Forums can be found at the following
> URL:
>
>                  http://forums.matronics.com
>
>
> *********************************
> *** Matronics Email List Wiki ***
> *********************************
>
> In an attempt to make it easy to store and find structured and often
> accessed
> information, Matronics has installed a Wiki at:
>
>                  http://wiki.matronics.com
>
> The Wiki allows individuals to create web pages to contain useful
> information
> for other users of the mailing lists and web site. Unlike an ordinary web
> page
>
> where the content needs to be submitted to Matronics for inclusion, the
> Wiki
> permits the users to construct their own pages and have them visible
> immediately.
>
> While constructing pages for the Wiki is not difficult, some may not be
> comfortable building pages.  In that case, simply prepare the text and any
> images and email it to:
>
>                 wiki-supp...@matronics.com
>
> One of the volunteers on that list will take your submission and construct
> a Wiki page for you.
>
> Often someone produces a particularly useful posting in email one one of
> the
> Lists that would be of general interest. In that case Matronics may take
> that
> post and convert it into a Wiki page.
>
>
> *********************
> *** List Archives ***
> *********************
>
>    A file containing of all of the previous postings to the KR-List is
>    available on line.  The archive file information is available via the
>    Web and FTP in a number of forms.  Each are briefly described below:
>
>
>    * KR-List.FAQ
>
>             - Latest version of the KR-List Frequently Asked Question
>               page (this document).
>
>    * KR-Archive.digest.complete
>
>             - Complete file with most of the email header info removed and
>               page breaks inserted between messages.
>
>    * KR-Archive.digest.vol-??
>
>             - Same as the file above, but broken up into small sections
> that
>               can more easily handled.
>
>    * KR-Archive.digest.complete.zip
>
>             - Same as the KR-Archive.digest.complete file above, but
>               in PKZIP format.  Use "binary" data transfer methods.
>
>    * KR-Archive.digest.complete.Z
>
>             - Same as the KR-Archive.digest.complete file above, but in
>               UNIX compress format.  Use "binary" data transfer methods.
>
>
>   Download Via FTP
>   ----------------
>
>    The archive file is available via anonymous FTP from ftp.matronics.com
>    in the "/pub/Archives" directory.  It is updated daily and can be found
> in
>    a number of formats as described above. (All filenames are case
> sensitive.)
>
>                   ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives
>
>
>   Download Via Web
>   ----------------
>
>    The archives are also available via a web listing.  These can be found
>    toward the bottom of the following web page:
>
>                   http://www.matronics.com/archives
>
>
> ******************************************
> *** Complete List Web Archive Browsing ***
> ******************************************
>
>    All messages posted to the KR-List are also available using the
>    Email List Archive Browsing feature.  With this utility, all messages
>    in the List are indexed, and individual sub-archives can be browsed.
>
>                   http://www.matronics.com/archive/archive-index.cgi?KR
>
>
> *****************************************
> **** High-Speed Archive Search Engine ***
> *****************************************
>
>    You can use the custom, high-performance Matronics Email List Search
> Engine
>    to quickly locate and browse any messages that have been posted to the
>    List.  The Engine allows the user to easily search any of the currently
>    available List archives.
>
>                   http://www.matronics.com/search
>
>
> ****************************
> *** File and Photo Share ***
> ****************************
>
>    With the Matronics Email List File and Photo Share you can share
> pictures
>    and other data with members of the List without having to forward a
>    copy of it to everyone.  To share your Files and Photos, simply email
>    them to:
>
>                   pictu...@matronics.com
>
>    !! ==> Please including the following information with each submission:
>
>                   1) Email Lists that they are related to.
>                   2) Your Full Name.
>                   3) Your Email Address.
>                   4) One line Subject description.
>                   5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic.
>                   6-x) One-line Description of each photo or file
>
>    Prior to public availability of the files and photos, each will be
> scanned
>    for viruses.  Please also note that the process of making the files and
>    photos available on the web site is a pseudo-manual process, and I try
> to
>    process them every few days.
>
>    Following the availability of the new Photoshare, an email message will
> be
>    sent to the Email Lists enumerated in 1) above indicating that the new
>    Share is available and what the direct URL to it is.
>
>    For a current list of available Photoshares, have a look at the Main
>    Index Page:
>
>                   http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
>
>
> **************************
> *** List Archive CDROM ***
> **************************
>
>    A complete Matronics Email List Archive CD is available that contains
>    all of the archives since the beginning of each of the Lists.  The
> archives
>    for all of the Lists are included on the CD along with a freeware search
>    engine written by a list member.  The CD is burned the day you order it
>    and will contain archive received  up to the last minute.  They make
>    great gifts!
>
>                   http://www.matronics.com/ArchiveCDROM
>
>
> **********************************
> *** List Support Contributions ***
> **********************************
>
>    The Matronics Lists are run *completely* through the support of it
> members.
>    You won't find any PopUpAds, flashing Banner ads, or any other form of
>    annoying commercialism on either the Email Messages or the List web
> pages
>    associated with the Matronics Email Lists.  Every year during November
>    I run a low-key, low-pressure "Fund Raiser" where, throughout the month,
>    I ask List members to make a Contribution in any amount with which they
>    are comfortable.
>
>    I will often offer free gifts with certain contribution levels during
> the
>    Fund Raiser to increase the participation.  The gifts are usually
> donated
>    by companies that are themselves List members.
>
>    Your Contributions go directly to supporting the operation of the Lists
>    including the high-speed, business-class Internet connection, server
>    system hardware and software upgrades, and to partially offset the many
>    many hours I spend running, maintaining, upgrading, and developing the
>    variety of services found here.
>
>    Generally Contributions range from $20 to $100 and are completely
> voluntary
>    and non-compulsory.  I ask only that if person enjoys the Lists and
> obtains
>    value from them, that they make a Contribution of equal magnitude.
>
>    Contributions are accepted throughout the year, and if you've just
>    subscribed, feel free to make a Contribution when you've settled in.
>
>    The website for making SSL Secure Contributions is listed below.  There
> are
>    a variety of payment methods including Visa and MasterCard, PayPal, and
>    sending a personal check.
>
>    If you enjoy and value the List, won't you make a Contribution today to
>    support its continued operation?
>
>                   http://www.matronics.com/contributions
>
>    Thank you!
>    Matt Dralle
>    Email List Administrator
>
>
>
> ******************************************************************************
>                      KR-List Usage Guidelines
>
> ******************************************************************************
>
> The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the KR-List.
> You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
> Failure to use the KR-List in the manner described below may result
> in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
>
>
> KR-List Policy Statement
>
> The purpose of the KR-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
> things related to this particular discussion group.  The List's goals
> are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
> high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
> among its members; and to support safe operation.  Reaching these goals
> requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
> the List.  To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
>
>
>  - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level.  Do not submit
>    posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
>    lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
>
>  - THINK carefully before you write.  Ask yourself if your post will be
>    relevant to everyone.  If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
>
>  - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
>    that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate.  Try to be concise and
>    terse in your posts.  Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
>    responses.
>
>  - Keep your signature brief.  Please include your name, email address,
>    aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location.  A short line
>    about where you are in the building process is also nice.  Avoid
>    bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
>    space in the archive.
>
>  - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
>    easily obtainable from other widely available sources.  Consult the
>    web page or FAQ first.
>
>  - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
>    your response the same as that of the original post.  This makes it
>    easy to find threads in the archive.
>
>  - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
>    response.  DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
>    reader to the topic at hand, but be selective.  The impact that
>    quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
>    can not be overstated!
>
>  - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
>    then go ahead and reply to the List.  Be aware that clicking the
>    "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
>    response to the original poster.  You might have to actively address
>    your response with the original poster's email address.
>
>  - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
>    to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal.  "Way to go!", "I
>    agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
>    to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
>
>  - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
>    comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
>    contribute something valuable.
>
>  - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
>    polite and respectful.  Don't make snide comments, personally attack
>    other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
>    controversial issue.  This will only cause a pointless debate that
>    will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
>
>  - Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
>    subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable.  Posts by
>    List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
>    should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
>    a typical SPAM message.  The List isn't about commercialism, but
>    is about sharing information and knowledge.  This applies to
>    everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
>    community.  Informal presentation and moderation should be the
>    operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
>
> -------
>
>
> [This is an automated posting.]
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ________________________________  Message 2
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:19:22 PM PST US
> From: Matt Dralle <dra...@matronics.com>
> Subject: KR-List: Official KR-List Usage Guidelines
>
>
> Dear Listers,
>
> Please read over the KR-List Usage Guidelines below.  The complete
> KR-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
> following URL:
>
>    http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/KR-List.FAQ.html
>
> Thank you,
>
> Matt Dralle
> Matronics Email List Administrator
>
>
>
> ******************************************************************************
>                      KR-List Usage Guidelines
>
> ******************************************************************************
>
> The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the KR-List.
> You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
> Failure to use the KR-List in the manner described below may result
> in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
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> KR-List Policy Statement
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> The purpose of the KR-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
> things related to this particular discussion group.  The List's goals
> are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
> high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
> among its members; and to support safe operation.  Reaching these goals
> requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
> the List.  To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
>
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>  - Please keep all posts related to the List at some level.  Do not submit
>    posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
>    lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
>
>  - THINK carefully before you write.  Ask yourself if your post will be
>    relevant to everyone.  If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
>
>  - Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
>    that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate.  Try to be concise and
>    terse in your posts.  Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
>    responses.
>
>  - Keep your signature brief.  Please include your name, email address,
>    aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location.  A short line
>    about where you are in the building process is also nice.  Avoid
>    bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
>    space in the archive.
>
>  - DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
>    easily obtainable from other widely available sources.  Consult the
>    web page or FAQ first.
>
>  - If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
>    your response the same as that of the original post.  This makes it
>    easy to find threads in the archive.
>
>  - When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
>    response.  DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
>    reader to the topic at hand, but be selective.  The impact that
>    quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
>    can not be overstated!
>
>  - When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
>    then go ahead and reply to the List.  Be aware that clicking the
>    "reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
>    response to the original poster.  You might have to actively address
>    your response with the original poster's email address.
>
>  - DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
>    to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal.  "Way to go!", "I
>    agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
>    to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
>
>  - When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
>    comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
>    contribute something valuable.
>
>  - Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
>    polite and respectful.  Don't make snide comments, personally attack
>    other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
>    controversial issue.  This will only cause a pointless debate that
>    will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
>
>  - Occasional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularly
>    subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable.  Posts by
>    List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
>    should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
>    a typical SPAM message.  The List isn't about commercialism, but
>    is about sharing information and knowledge.  This applies to
>    everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
>    community.  Informal presentation and moderation should be the
>    operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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