Robert Gill wrote:

Hi all, does any one have any advise on props, my kr2 has now had its second
test flight on it, The prop is a Tonini gt, its a 56*44 and i am only
getting 2800 rpm on climb and 2900 at 140 Kts.... 

160 mph isn't bad at low RPM, but  with a CG that far forward, yes, you'll
need lots of up trim to compensate.  Your tail incidence is probably fine.
The first time I flew N891JF the trim tab cable housing was broken, so I
immobilized it in line with the elevator.  It took a lot of up backstick to
keep the nose up, and letting go of the stick would point it right at the
ground.  After I fixed the trim tab housing it required full nose-up trim
from the trim tab to fly level without input.  The easy cure is a small (5"
tall, 1.5" wide) fixed aluminum tab on the elevator, but the real cure is to
get the CG more aft.  I've been doing that with it over the course of this
rebuild, and right now the ELT, backup battery, and a few other items are
located well aft of the seat back....as far as I can reach back there.  I've
also lightened the battery that hangs on the firewall, which will be moved
to the front of the spar if needed, or even behind the seat to join the
backup.  Having CG biased toward the front is good, but the front limit
isn't where you want to fly.

CHT temps will likely be 25-50F higher during breakin, but RPM should be
pretty close to final RPMs.  It does stand to reason that EGTs would be
somewhat high with a coating or wrapping that insulated them, but probably
no 50F.  EGTs are relative, so your probes may be closer than what others
are seeing.  If you're not into the 1400F range, I wouldn't get too upset
about it, but it would make sense to make sure you're not running too lean
by checking plugs and making sure you can richen it up to lower them with
the mixture knob.

Regarding props, you do need to do something to increase RPM.  I'd see if
you can borrow a couple of other ones before I started shortening yours.  It
will take a lot to get there, I'd think.   Find one that works better, and
then commission a copy to be made.  I'm no Revmaster expert, but I'd want to
be able to turn 3600 RPM on a VW-based engine to get max power out of it on
climbout.  After that throttle back and enjoy the economy.  If it helps, see
http://www.krnet.org/kr-info.html for other props for comparison, but
nothing works like bolting on somebody else's prop and trying it.  I've
probably flown 12 different props on my plane, so I have a good feel for
what works on a Corvair powered KR2S.  Others who've shortened a prop may
have some insight.  That will certainly get you in the air quickly, but at
the risk of making a less-than-efficient prop.    I've never done it, so it
may be just the ticket though.  I know it's the last bit of the prop that
does the most work.  Most prop makers can repitch the prop some, so that's
another option, but not as quick as lopping off a half inch at a time, I'll
confess...

Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
ML at N56ML.com
www.N56ML.com  



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Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:32 AM
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