All this talk about landing speeds makes me wonder whether everyone is
using true airspeeds. At landing, IAS can be off by quite a bit because the
pitot isn't parallel to the airstream. If you don't have a GPS, it would be
worthwhile to try some landings (on a windless day) with a car GPS in the
plane to see if the speed check out.

Mike Taglieri
On Feb 15, 2015 6:03 PM, "Mike Stirewalt via KRnet" <krnet at list.krnet.org>
wrote:

> Sorry if this is a duplicate but the last few days my postings don't show
> up in my daily digest mode email from KRNET as they always have, unless I
> re-send them.
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> Mark Jones said,
>
> > "That first landing was absolutely the worst landing I have ever made
> (except when I hit a deer) and by being so slow it almost caused me to
> crash my KR on touchdown."
>
> I did the same thing when leaving Omaha after picking up my new KR from
> Steve Bennett.  I hadn't flown a KR in many years and was dressed in
> shorts since it was the middle of July but ran into rain and cold temps
> and was shivering and somehow landed downwind at my first gas stop,
> although didn't mean to.  I was too addled by the unfamiliar plane,
> abundant gas fumes from leaking line connections, and being chilled and
> very uncomfortable that I mistakenly assumed the wind was from the west -
> the usual direction out there on the Wyoming border.  But the wind was
> from the east that day.   I stalled it above the runway at what seemed
> and felt like at least 20 feet and came slamming straight down and was
> sure I must have broken something or blown a tire.  The engine died and I
> was pretty stunned at what I'd done.  But the engine started right up.
> The tires rolled.  I was amazed.  That was by far the worst landing I've
> ever made with this plane.  These kinds of things happen when we are
> going through the survival process of learning to land our KR's.  It
> takes a few landings and s*** sometimes happens in the process.  We get
> better quickly or we damage or destroy our planes.  You just got too
> slow, and I did the same thing.  I think it's significant that we both
> made horrible landings but didn't damage anything.  More common with
> initial KR flights (other airplanes too) is touching down too fast,
> bouncing, then touching down and bouncing again and then panic sets in
> because the end of the runway is coming up so guys try and force it onto
> the runway and if lucky nothing gets broken but usually something does.
> Best thing to do after bouncing badly is going around and touching down
> slower on the next pass but many bashed wing tips, broken props and nose
> gears, etc. testify to to the fact that guys on their first flights often
> don't do that (go around).
>
> Anyway, once we have a feel for our planes we can land at any speed we
> want.  Someone in the process of developing that feel though needs to
> read Jim Faughn's article and take it to the bank.
>
> Going into a 1200 ft. strip is a whole 'nother subject.  I think it's
> super important to do first flights on the longest uncontrolled runway
> you can find that's reasonably close.
>
> Mike
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