If anyone asked about the KR? That I have for sale and did not get an answer 
let me know. We think we got my computer to send out pictures again. Only 4 at 
a time.? Really want to move this plane. for those that asked I?live in Fort 
Worth Tx? Airport is T67 


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Today's Topics:

? 1. Re:? Ballast Weight Installation (Sid Wood)
? 2.? Weight and balance (dean choitz)
? 3. Re:? Weight and balance (Dave Acklam)
? 4. Re:? Weight and balance (CraigW)
? 5. Re:? Weight and balance (Flesner)
? 6.? Help In GA (bjoenunley)
? 7. Re:? Help In GA (Paul Visk)


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Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 19:47:10 -0400
From: "Sid Wood" <smwood at md.metrocast.net>
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Subject: Re: KR> Ballast Weight Installation
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I had previously reported that I would need to add 49 pounds ballast at the 
engine area to meet my goal of moving the cg 3 inches forward on my KR-2 . 
I had reported some erroneous numbers for the weight and location of the 
elevator balance weight.? The correct numbers are 4.71 pounds with an arm of 
95 inches.? The nose ballast location is still 23 inches forward of the stub 
wing leading edge.? Doing the math: 4.71 x 95 / 23 = 19.45 pounds ballast. 
By removing the elevator balance weight with its mounting and bolts, I will 
not need that 19.45 pounds of ballast in the nose.
For the ELT move from the baggage shelf to the cockpit floor forward of the 
spar: The ELT with batteries and rack weighs 3.5 pound.? The arm at the 
baggage shelf is centered at 60 inches.? The new location is centered at 0 
inches arm.? No weight loss with moving the ELT, but the previously needed 
ballast would be 3.5 x 60 / 23 = 9.1 pounds, now no longer needed.
With the removal of the elevator balance weight and move of the ELT, the 
current ballast is now: 49 - 19.45 - 9.1 = 20.45 pounds.

A pound or two at long moment arms does make a big difference.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA






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Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 17:26:57 -0700
From: dean choitz <ddchoitz at gmail.com>
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Subject: KR> Weight and balance
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Has anyone ever tried to support the airplane under the stub wing and lift
up on it with the wings attached tail feathers completed get in the plane
engine on the firewall fuel empty fuel full that's the way I did it in the
radio control airplane days or would something break or poke a hole in the
wing perhaps maybe a support block could be made under the wing to keep
from pushing through just seems like an easy way to accurately measure your
weight and balance center of lift any thoughts


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Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 17:54:40 -0700
From: Dave Acklam <dave.a.krnet at gmail.com>
To: KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org>
Subject: Re: KR> Weight and balance
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You will punch through and a block will crush foam...

Iirc w&b is best done with 3 scales, one under each wheel... You can then
calculate cg from the weight diff
On May 20, 2015 5:27 PM, "dean choitz via KRnet" <krnet at list.krnet.org>
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> Has anyone ever tried to support the airplane under the stub wing and lift
> up on it with the wings attached tail feathers completed get in the plane
> engine on the firewall fuel empty fuel full that's the way I did it in the
> radio control airplane days or would something break or poke a hole in the
> wing perhaps maybe a support block could be made under the wing to keep
> from pushing through just seems like an easy way to accurately measure your
> weight and balance center of lift any thoughts
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Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 20:55:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: CraigW <craig at kr2seafury.com>
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Subject: Re: KR> Weight and balance
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Yes I do the same thing with my RC planes.? I have every intention of doing it
before I fly my plane.? Because after all I am human...

Craig
www.kr2seafury.com

Frankenstein Lycoming powered



> On May 20, 2015 at 8:26 PM dean choitz via KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org> 
> wrote:
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>
> Has anyone ever tried to support the airplane under the stub wing and lift
> up on it with the wings attached tail feathers completed get in the plane
> engine on the firewall fuel empty fuel full that's the way I did it in the
> radio control airplane days or would something break or poke a hole in the
> wing perhaps maybe a support block could be made under the wing to keep
> from pushing through just seems like an easy way to accurately measure your
> weight and balance center of lift any thoughts
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Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 20:58:03 -0500
From: Flesner <flesner at frontier.com>
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Subject: Re: KR> Weight and balance
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At 07:26 PM 5/20/2015, you wrote:
>Has anyone ever tried to support the airplane under the stub wing and lift
>up on it with the wings
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

If you accurately weigh and measure the airplane you can "lift the 
airplane" with pencil and paper.

Larry Flesner 




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Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 22:31:17 -0500
From: bjoenunley <bjoenunley at gmail.com>
To: KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org>
Subject: KR> Help In GA
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? ? 
Does anyone ?live near Peachtree Georgia? ? Or is anyone on the way to the 
Aircraftspruce East facility?
I need a 4x4 by 1/8 inch sheet of plywood to finish ?up ?my fuselage. I will be 
driving to Atlanta GA Saturday ?night after ?aircraftspruce is closed and 
leaving before they open on Tuesday.?
If someone could ?pick up the plywood for me and I can pick it up from you? ?I 
might be able ?to ?make it worth your ?time.?
I know it is a lot to ask. I would greatly appreciate the help!
JoeFlorida?


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

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Message: 7
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Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 01:09:32 -0500
From: Paul Visk <ppaulvsk at aol.com>
To: KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org>
Subject: Re: KR> Help In GA
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I know that Wicks will leave stuff out in front foyer for you to pick up after 
hours. See if AC Spruce would be able?to do that.?

Paul Visk
Belleville Il.
618-406-4705

<div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: bjoenunley via KRnet 
<krnet at list.krnet.org> </div><div>Date:05/20/2015? 10:31 PM? (GMT-06:00) 
</div><div>To: KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org> </div><div>Cc: bjoenunley 
<bjoenunley at gmail.com> </div><div>Subject: KR> Help In GA </div><div>
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? ? 
Does anyone? live near Peachtree Georgia?? Or is anyone on the way to the 
Aircraftspruce East facility?
I need a 4x4 by 1/8 inch sheet of plywood to finish? up? my fuselage. I will be 
driving to Atlanta GA Saturday? night after? aircraftspruce is closed and 
leaving before they open on Tuesday. 
If someone could? pick up the plywood for me and I can pick it up from you?? I 
might be able? to? make it worth your? time. 
I know it is a lot to ask. I would greatly appreciate the help!
JoeFlorida 


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
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