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> On 1 Apr 2016, at 4:55 AM, Sid Wood via KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Pete,
> I have a KR-2 with Diehl wing skins, RR engine mount and GP 2180 VW; I put 
> 2-inch spacer blocks between the fire wall and engine mount.  Empty CG was 
> 10.6 inches and the aircraft was very tail heavy on first flight.  Did not 
> test for stall speed in flight with the tail heavy condition; would probably 
> get into an unrecoverable spin.  Touch down on first flight was at 75 Kts to 
> preclude a stall on landing, bounced and got a wheel barrow nose wheel touch 
> down; bent the nose gear strut, but did not get a prop strike on the Sterba 
> 52x52 prop.  I had 9 inches ground clearance on the prop.  Replaced the nose 
> strut, fixed the broken trim tab Bowden cable     Flight 2 was still tail 
> heavy; landed fast and ran off end of the runway, no damage.  Put 22 pounds 
> ballast at the nose of the engine for an empty CG of 9.5 inches.  Flight 3 
> was still tail heavy, landed at 75 Kts and ran off the runway again, no 
> damage.  Put 32 pounds ballast at the nose of the engine for empty CG of 9.1 
> inches.  Flight 4 still tail heavy and landed at 60 Kts, stalled on the 
> runway, dragged the tail before the main wheels touched and ran off the side 
> of the runway.  Had minor damage when the left brake cylinder hit the edge of 
> the asphalt.
> 
> Finally concluded that the CG range given in the KR-2 plans is off by 2 
> inches.  Diehl wing skins and/or my construction technique may also be 
> factors.
> 
> I have now adjusted the empty CG to be 8.0 inches using 24 pound ballast on 
> the engine mount, removing 4.6 pound counter weight from the elevator and 
> moving the 3.1 pound ELT from the baggage shelf to front of the main spar.
> Now doing Condition Inspection prior to flight 5.
> Your results may vary.
> 
> Sid Wood
> Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
> Mechanicsville, MD, USA
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> KRNetters
> I am in the process of determining the cg on my project. In comparing cg 
> location, RR plans show the 8" cg range with the fwd edge of the range 
> starting 8" aft of the leading edge of the wing. Based on the profile of the 
> 48" rib, the leading edge of the cg range is 2" fwd of the front face of the 
> main spar. I have Diehl RAF - 48 skins along with inboard skins that 
> Jeannette Rand also produced. With those, the leading edge of the wing is 
> 11.5" fwd of the front spar face, an 1.5" fwd of RR plans. Should I move the 
> cg envelope fwd by that 1.5" or use the cg range set by RR.
> Next question: Preliminary calculations show my empty cg is approx. an 1" fwd 
> of the RR cg location. Knowing that any weight added, passengers, fuel, 
> baggage, etc will fall push the flying cg aft, should I fabricate my engine 
> mount using this calculated engine position?
> I have done calculations with pilot plus 1/2 fuel and it falls at 2" into the 
> RR cg range, and pilot & passenger plus 3/4 fuel and cg falls within 6" 
> preferred cg range, the later coming in right at the aft edge of the 
> preferred range. I'm thinking that I would like set the engine such that with 
> me and 1/2 fuel that the cg falls right at the fwd cg limit.
> 
> Next question: The horizontal engine centerline with the temporary engine 
> mount is 2.5" below the top of the upper longerons. I'd like to drop the 
> centerline a little more, 1/2 to 3/4", for better clearance for engine 
> cowling and cooling plenum. Anyone see a problem with that.
> All advise cheerfully accepted,
> Thanks in advance for any and all assistance.
> Pete Klapp
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