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1. Re: Smooth Prime problems (Doran Jaffas)
2. Paints (abnd dopes) comparison (Jeff Scott)
3. Facet pumps in series (Craig Williams)
4. Re: Facet pumps in series (Mark Langford)
5. Re: Facet pumps in series (Daniel Heath)
6. Re: Facet pumps in series (Daniel Heath)
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Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 12:30:49 -0700
From: Doran Jaffas <vintageaircraftowner at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: KR> Smooth Prime problems
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I have the Stewart Systems DVD instruction set. I plan on using it on my
Tri Pacer in a cpl of years. School of Missionary Aviation Training at Y70
uses it exclusively. I looked at several systems and I like Stewarts the
best.
Great Luck to You!!
Doran Jaffas
Rob wrote:
... My 1st finish paint job was sprayed on using a "Boat"
acrylic enamel. That didn't last. My second paint job was Stewart Systems
and it seems to be holding up much better (rolled on).----------------
A reminder to everyone. Stewart Systems will be doing a forum Saturday
morning at the Gathering
Paul Visk Belleville IL 618 406 4705
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From: "Jeff Scott" <jscott.planes at gmx.com>
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Subject: KR> Paints (abnd dopes) comparison
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I supervised the recover of both a Taylorcraft and a TriPacer with Stewarts
system in the last few years.?? I have to say, the TriPacer came out
exceptionally nice as the owner also put a lot of $$ and work into it besides
just the cover.? But the Stewart system is simple and relatively easy to do if
you follow their instructions.? I didn't care for the cost of the Stewart
systems, but otherwise I thought it was a good covering system.?
?
I have also covered using the Nitrate/Butyrate, and Polyfiber systems.? All of
them work well, although the Stewarts system is significantly less toxic to
work with.
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I have also done quite a bit of paint work as well, although I don't consider
myself to be anywhere near a "professional" quality painter.? However, I have
used a lot of different types of paints.? Stewarts would not be at the top of
my list of paints that I would use on wood and/or glass.? However, I do
understand using it because of the lower toxicity.? I'll write my evaluation of
the various types of paints below based on the last 20 years of painting planes
and cars, some of which came out really good, and some of which didn't.
All of these paints must be used with either a fresh air source into a hood, or
a chemical and particulate respirator along with an adequate quantity of fresh
air.
?
Acrylic Enamel - The first professional paint I ever used.? I found it to be
easy to spray as long as you were close to the recommended temperatures, but
found that once cured, it chips quite easily and tends to be pretty brittle, so
touch ups and repaints are in your future if you use it. Also pretty toxic
stuff.
?
PolyUrethane - Can be difficult to paint. Loves to "Orange Peel" if anything
is less than perfect for conditions. But leaves a gorgeous finish in the event
you get everything right. Sticks to darned near anything. Is also pretty
flexible as I have shot this on top of dope and fabric and haven't seen any
kind of significant cracking after 5 years of service. Probably one of the
most toxic paints you can use. Also, many PolyUrethane paints are quite
expensive >$300/gal. (I found the overspray from PolyUrethane stuck to my next
door neighbors $150K Cirrus very nicely, which was a lot of work for us to
clean back to "new" condition).
Base Coat (urethane) / Clear Coat (PolyUrethane)- The Urethane Base coat is so
easy it's like spraying primer. You get spoiled by shooting the base coat.
Then you spray the clear coat. Well, it's clear, so takes really good lighting
to be able to see how you're spraying. Like the PolyUrethane above, it loves
to "Orange Peel" and is really easy to get runs and sags since it's clear and
you can't see it. Also, since it is a PolyUrethane, it's pretty darned toxic.
However, you can lightly sand and polish out the runs, sags and orange peel to
make it look good.
Acrylic Urethane - My current favorite. Sprays easy like Acrylic Enamel. Even
uses the same catalyst. But is much more flexible when cured, and seems to be
as tough and durable as PolyUrethane. This paint seems to have the good
qualities of spraying easy like Acrylic Enamel with the shine, durability, and
flexibility of PolyUrethane. But, it's still high on the toxicity scale. This
is what I recommend for amateur painters like myself as I get good results with
a shiny durable finish without the need for a paint booth and superior lighting.
Stewarts Acrylic Urethane - You want to follow the directions to the letter
including prep work. No short cuts. If you stay within their directions, it
paints reasonably well and will give you a good finish. It's used over fabric,
so is clearly flexible and has reasonable durability. Stewarts is the least
toxic of all of these paints and there is a lot to be said for using water as
your reducer and for clean up rather than chemicals that like to attack your
liver when inhaled or exposed to your skin.
Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM
I know just enough about painting to make a really big mess!
?
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Sent:?Saturday, August 13, 2016 at 1:30 PM
From:?"Doran Jaffas via KRnet" <krnet at list.krnet.org>
To:?KRnet <krnet at list.krnet.org>
Cc:?"Doran Jaffas" <vintageaircraftowner at gmail.com>
Subject:?Re: KR> Smooth Prime problems
I have the Stewart Systems DVD instruction set. I plan on using it on my
Tri Pacer in a cpl of years. School of Missionary Aviation Training at Y70
uses it exclusively. I looked at several systems and I like Stewarts the
best.
Great Luck to You!!
Doran Jaffas
Rob wrote:
... My 1st finish paint job was sprayed on using a "Boat"
acrylic enamel. That didn't last. My second paint job was Stewart Systems
and it seems to be holding up much better (rolled on).----------------
A reminder to everyone. Stewart Systems will be doing a forum Saturday
morning at the Gathering
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From: Craig Williams <craig at kr2seafury.com>
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Subject: KR> Facet pumps in series
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Question
Can you plumb 2 facet pumps in series and will each run the engine if the other
fails. I have been trying to plumb them in parallel but its a real pain to get
the tubing all bent correctly. Series would be much easier. It looks like
the Zenith 601 was doing it at one time. Not sure they still are.
Thanks.
Craig
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Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 18:04:54 -0500
From: Mark Langford <ml at n56ml.com>
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Craig Williams wrote:
> Can you plumb 2 facet pumps in series and will each run the engine
> if the other fails?
It may depend on exactly which model you buy, but I did exactly that
with N56ML and N891JF, using the Facet 40108 that is commonly sold by
AS&S and Wicks. See http://www.n56ml.com/fuel/ for more on that. The
first photo down appears as though there's a "cross" in the system, but
they are simply overlapping with a tie-wrap to secure the flex hose end.
I get a slight fuel pressure boost on N56ML with both pumps running, but
I keep the same pressure regardless on N891JF by using a pressure
regulator inline that maintains 3 psi.
Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
http://www.n56ml.com
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Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2016 08:50:44 -0400
From: "Daniel Heath" <danrh at windstream.net>
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This was a discussion a good many years ago, so I documented some tests to
prove that you can install them in series. In fact, that is how they were
installed on the Black Bird.
See N64KR at <http://krbuilder.org/> http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
the pics
2016 KR Gathering - Mt. Vernon, Ill.
Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
Best Interior and Panel at 2008 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
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Subject: KR> Facet pumps in series
Question
Can you plumb 2 facet pumps in series and will each run the engine if the
other fails. I have been trying to plumb them in parallel but its a real
pain to get the tubing all bent correctly. Series would be much easier. It
looks like the Zenith 601 was doing it at one time. Not sure they still
are.
Thanks.
Craig
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Sorry, forgot the link
http://krbuilder.org/FirewallForward/FuelSystem/FuelPumpTests/index.html
See N64KR at <http://krbuilder.org/> http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
the pics
2016 KR Gathering - Mt. Vernon, Ill.
Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
Best Interior and Panel at 2008 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
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Subject: KR> Facet pumps in series
Question
Can you plumb 2 facet pumps in series and will each run the engine if the
other fails. I have been trying to plumb them in parallel but its a real
pain to get the tubing all bent correctly. Series would be much easier. It
looks like the Zenith 601 was doing it at one time. Not sure they still
are.
Thanks.
Craig
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Some of you guys have asked in past years if someone could record Marks
forum at Oshkosh. This is my attempt.It's not vary good because it was
recorded on my phone.
I want to thank my son, Michael for helping me get this uploaded to
Youtube. If I did it, it would have been five separate videos. I also learned
that for some reason, I was able to use AOL to upload the video.
https://youtu.be/ejCWbP58Frg
Paul Visk
Belleville Il.
618 406
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Facet Pumps in series....
If you are buying these pumps from another source, say a racing shop or
something, you have to watch the model you buy. Facet implements 2 feature
options that will prevent them from being used in series. Most of their
pumps have check valves in them that ensures fuel moves only one direction.
That's not a problem for us generally. The other feature is the positive
shut off integral to some models. In these models, if the pump is off you
can not push or pull fuel through them....I will point you to their web
site for a matrix....the PSO column indicates the presence of the Positive
Shut Off...
http://www.facet-purolator.com/cube-fuel-pumps.php
Phill Hill
Collinsville, IL
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