I had the KR set up in cruise and trimmed out - power back to idle.  I
assumed the glide speed would be maybe in the 
120 mph range - held the nose up to bleed the speed off a bit - about
120 smph indicated I slowly released the stick and let it center to the
air loads

The nose dropped to a rather steep angle and as the airspeed went
through 145 indicated I took the stick and came out of the dive.  

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Thanks for the trouble Larry - it was interesting (for me).

In the cruise she needs a little bit of up trim to hold the nose on the
horizon and keep everything balanced.  To me this suggests that the
forces arrangement in the cruise has something tugging down on the nose
(a nose-down moment).  As you said - this is not a bad thing - better
than having the tail wondering about in uncertainty.

It does however interest me to know what was tugging the front down (in
S&L flight) requiring that bit of "up" trim.  I was convinced that it
down-thrust on the engine - hence the test to see what happens when we
remove that component - well now we know I was wrong - and that the
motor is keeping the nose up (providing a nose-up moment), not pulling
it down - when we remove the thrust, the nose falls away quite rapidly -
we need to see if this happens before the speed decays.

To my thinking, the next likely suspect tugging the snozzle down is a
fwd CG.  Unlike tail heavy, a fwd CG is healthy any day of the week, but
if this is the case it may be useful to know.  Is the elevator still
effective right into the stall - a fwd CG could provoke elevator stall
before the wing gets to its stalling angle.  Difficult to tell the
difference coz something lets go, the nose drops and we recover into S&L
flight.  Was it the wing that quit flying or is it the tail that stopped
flying and let the wing go.  I would be suspicious of birds that
consistently stalled dead straight - no wing drop - maybe the wing never
actually stalled.

I have had my fair share of informstion so I will stop asking for tests.
If you do however decide to try the power-off glide with some weight
moved back - please let us know what you learn.

Take care
Steve





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