They add a year or to the normal build time, but they look soooooooooo clean 
in flight w/o all that stuff hanging out there.
John's is a perfect example, his is reliable and relatively light.
I weighted mine after fabrication and the assy weighed the same as stock 
gears with my compressor and plastic air tubing and controls it's about 7 
lbs heavier. They deploy by gravity.
Allot of work to fit them up is required.

KRron

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Colin & Bev Rainey" <[email protected]>
To: "KRnet" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 7:35 PM
Subject: KR> Retracts


> Netters
>
> I am going to say something here that I hope doesn't offend. There is NO 
> WAY you can get a retract gear system that is safe and relaible to weigh 
> as little as my Dan Diehl fixed gear system.  Common sense tells you that 
> you have to have just as strong main gear legs so that is nearly the same, 
> wheels and tires and brakes, so that is the same.  Then, the part count 
> goes up on the retract because now we have to have the linkages or jack 
> screws, electric motor if that style, & wiring, hydraulic system if that 
> style, and indicator system for gear position.  The shear increase in part 
> count makes it obvious that the retract will weigh more, the question is 
> just how much more.  The coolness factor is not worth the added weight and 
> drop in performance.  Look at the Loehle P5151R vs the P5151. Same max 
> speed, 10 mph cruise speed increase.  For the KR1 no big deal, but for the 
> KR2, the added weight surely means lower payload.  Remember, added weight 
> in empty weight reduces payload because you still have the same gross 
> weight!  If Troy Pettiway, one of the fastest KRs flying, and Marty 
> Roberts, another fast one, and Steve Alderman, another fast one, felt that 
> they would get significant enough speed gains to make it worth the added 
> weight and time on this plane, trust me they would have put them on!  You 
> can install a Flight Director too in your KR and it will work, BUT does it 
> make sense and is it necessary to match the mission of the plane, or is it 
> just the latest greatest toy available and money is burning a hole in your 
> pocket.   If so, so be it.  But do not believe that you can make a retract 
> system come close to the same weight as a well designed fixed gear system. 
> That defies common sense.  Comparing a car's heavy duty leaf spring to my 
> light weight fiberglass gear legs is truly apples to oranges.
>
> Not trying to talk anyone out of doing it, just want you to see both sides 
> BEFORE you buy parts and change your install and begin cutting....
>
> Colin & Bev Rainey
> KR2(td) N96TA
> Sanford, FL
> [email protected]
> http://kr-builder.org/Colin/index.html
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