Facet fuel pumps do restrict the flow, and the funny thing is they don't 
do it evenly. It actually depends on which position the pump plate has 
when it stops.

It's another of these crazy aircraft situations: we use Facets because 
they are approved by the FAA, and they are approved by the FAA because 
they have internal bypass... but that internal bypass does restrict the 
flow considerably.

My new engine does not have an engine driven pump, so I installed a single 
Facet, hoping to get free flow through it. Result: the flow would hardly 
keep the engine idle when the header tank is low. So, I ordered a 
nonreturn valve from ASS, and made a bypass. Only to find that gravity 
from the header is not enough to open the valve.

I don't consider two Facets  a good option, because you would then have to 
design a way to detect a failure, so it is more complexity, more weight... 
and bad practice too. Also, electrical failure becomes critical.

 So, I will end up making a free bypass around the Facet. I will use two 
T-junctions, set so as to favor the free flow in, and the Facet out. This 
way, probably gravity will prevail. The Facet will pump more than enough 
fuel anyway, so if the loop induces a loss (pumping in circle), well, so 
be it.

If I had time to redo the system, I would go to the nearest junkyard, get 
hold of a good fuel pump from a reputable Japanese or German made car, and 
bypass it with  large section free flow piping.

Bottom line: Facets suck... badly!

Serge Vidal
Paris, France





"Brian Kraut" <[email protected]>

Envoyé par : [email protected]
2004-11-13 03:23
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        Pour :  "KRnet" <[email protected]>
        cc :    (ccc : Serge VIDAL/DNSA/SAGEM)
        Objet : RE: KR> Facet #40108



Another thing or two to keep in mind when designing fuel systems with the
Facet pumps.

You shoud have the pump mounted low in the system if possible.  I had one
mounted on the back of my header tank to transfer fuel from the wings to 
the
header.  I did some experimenting first to see if the pump would suck up
fuel through a dry line from up that high and it worked fine.  In 
operation
a few times after it was installed it refused to suck a prime through the
line.  A good slip with the wing of the selected  tank high would usually 
be
enough to get a prime sucked in the line and start it pumping normally, 
but
mounting the pump lower would be a lot better.

The Facet pumps restrict the fuel flow some when not running.  I put one 
on
my firewall as a boost pump for the header tank and found that it 
restricted
fuel flow enough when it was not running that I couldn't throtle past half
before the engine would start coughing.  I measured the fuel flow and then
removed the pump and increase the flow by over double what it was going
through the pump when it was not running.

Keep the odd shortcomings in mind and the pumps work very good.

Brian Kraut
Engineering Alternatives, Inc.
www.engalt.com



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