without being pedantic, dont forget to remember that as the arc of the lever 
increases or decreases  the leverage moment effect will alter the length of 
cable movement proportionately. Probably a bit hyperthetical but true.  Just 
saying!
Vaughan Thomas
Down (rightdown) Under  - New 
ealand  -------------------------------------------
From: "Matt Elder" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:51 PM
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Re: KR> Aileron cable travel

> I didn't see that there was any discouragement in any post. Perhaps you 
> lack the vocabulary to properly ask the question because a couple of us 
> have answered it already as asked. Aileron cable travel as you ask is 
> purely a function of the pivot radius and the angle of swing-a la the 
> distance the Center of the cable eye will move... If that's not what you 
> are looking for the you need to describe it better because that's what you 
> asked. If that is what you are looking for the you already have your 
> answer assuming you had a working system.... See previous posts.
>
> There's no reason to bash anyone on the list because we answered a 
> question you didn't know how to ask.
>
> If this didn't help, email me off list and ill give you my phone number 
> and we can talk about it and perhaps resolve it that way.
>
> Matt
>
> Sent via DroidX2 on Verizon Wireless?
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: [email protected]
> To: KRnet <[email protected]>
> Sent: Thu, Aug 23, 2012 00:44:33 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: Re: KR> Aileron cable travel
>
> Many of you guys have the advantage of having completed your planes and
> others have not. I don't know why you join a list like this if you are not
> really going to help/share your knowledge and experience. Are you going to
> tell me I don't really want to know what I just asked? Really? Could you
> just remember back to the days when you were still building please and
> treat others the way you would want to be treated? Would you want to be
> encouraged or discouraged? Sometimes this list is really great but other
> times it's a real downer. Everyone told me how great KR builders were and
> how happy they are to help and answer questions. Really?
>
> <sigh> Did I ask for aileron travel? No, I asked for aileron cable travel.
> Two totally different things are they not? A builder will understand that
> these are totally different things.
>
> So, once again for the hard of hearing...I have built my own version of a
> dual stick aileron control system based on the stock geometry. Stick pivot
> to cable eye is 2.5", as spec'd out in my plan book. What is unknown is
> whether or not my stick will allow enough movement side to side to move 
> the
> cables enough to get the ailerons to move the prescribed amount. Not 
> having
> a working STOCK system to work from, I was just asking if someone with
> STOCK stick assembly would measure how far the cable travels during 
> aileron
> deflection from stop to stop so I can tell if my clearances are ok. That's
> all.
>
>
> On , Pat and Robin Russo <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Ditto to comment already made. Adding a 2nd stick does not change aileron
>
>> travel unless you change the pivot geometry. Stay with the same
>> measurement,
>
>> Pivot pin to aileron cable attach point, which is about 2.75"-3" on the
>> KR.
>
>
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