81JM is conventional retract, original (poor) drums, & cable brakes I have always flown off a 2800 strip and try not to use the brakes at all...they last longer that way. -- Sent from my Alcatel A405DL
KRnet wrote: > I am not sure but I believe that mine is also a original KR 2 I am new to > the KR world and mine is also a 1984 model with retractable gear and cable > brakes > >> On Feb 10, 2021, at 3:10 PM, Lee Van Dyke via KRnet <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> In response to your last question, who flies a KR2 like yours.....I do >> original KR2 with retracts and cable brakes build in 1984 >> >> Lee Van Dyke > >>> On Feb 5, 2021, at 3:05 PM, Dr. Feng Hsu via KRnet <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thank you Mr. Colin for your very encouraging post commenting about the KR2 >>> original design. Honestly, I need such post like yours to help keeping my >>> dream alive for getting my KR2 off the ground someday! I was thinking about >>> giving it up on my dreams to actually fly the bird after described my KR2 >>> issues and get no encouraging response on the original design with my type >>> of configuration, especially for a cable activated break and taildragger >>> with attractable main gear that is extremely hard to operate.... >>> >>> Does anyone know whom Larry Geiger is? Your video about his KR2 won the >>> 1993 KR2 of the year is a huge boost on my confidence about the KR2 >>> original design. My KR2 looks almost identical to his except not suring >>> about his break? My breaks and retractable wheels look almost identical, so >>> I would assume that Larry Geiger's KR2 in the video was also equipped with >>> a cable break, such as in the original design, perhaps? >>> >>> Another video provided in your link was a maiden flight of a KR2 with my >>> type of design, but the video scared me a heck of a lot when watching the >>> guy (your friend?) almost lost control on his first take off...?! >>> >>> You also mentioned a number of times about nothing wrong with the standard >>> KR2 design. However, I am not sure what was exactly the standard KR2 design >>> by Ken Rand? Was it also called the original KR2 design with the same type >>> of configuration like my bird (such as retractable main gear with cable >>> break system, taildragger with a speed break board in the belly)? >>> >>> Am still looking to find out if anyone on the planet who still owns and >>> flies the type of KR2 like mine, especially here in the US?! >>> >>> Kindly, >>> >>> Dr. Hsu >> >>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2021, 9:46 AM colin hales via KRnet <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I've read lots about stability and landing. >>>> >>>> I have a stock KR2. It's fine!!!! >>>> >>>> You don't need to extend the fuselage length or put a bigger tailplane on >>>> to make it more stable. Those people who say there KR" is unstable haven't >>>> got it set up right with respect to the C of G. Just make sure your C of G >>>> is correct. A bigger tailplane means probably a bigger elevator, overall >>>> affect of both is a more stable aircraft until you move the larger, more >>>> powerful elevator. So now you need a smaller elevator, but then you won't >>>> have such an agile aircraft. It's all a waste of time and effort. >>>> >>>> If you lengthen the fuselage, yes you get a more stable aircraft until you >>>> move either rudder or elevator. Don't forget pitch or yaw control is a >>>> function of forces and length which can be exchanged for torque. More >>>> length more torque, overall affect of lengthening fuselage. Nothing but a >>>> waste of time and effort. Yes its more stable until you touch the controls, >>>> then the fact they are further from the centre of pressure makes them more >>>> powerful or the aircraft is just as light and twitchy. >>>> >>>> JUST GET THE Cof G RIGHT AND THE AIRCRAFT ORIGINAL DESIGN IS FINE! If its >>>> not broken, don't try to fix it. >>>> >>>> As for landing, its easy. Just fly along the runway in a slowly descending >>>> attitude, no flare or faffing or pilot induced oscillation, PIO. When the >>>> wheels touch, stick forward to keep the plane on the ground and close the >>>> throttle and wait for the tail to touch down. >>>> >>>> The biggest problem with the KR2 is you have to finish it, I bet 90% that >>>> get started never get finished. >>>> >>>> So don't worry about modifications or re-inventing the wheel, pitch >>>> sensitivity or flying or landing, just worry about finishing it, because >>>> most people won't ever finish the poor plane, but will sell it on again to >>>> the next person who will want to modify it and re-invent the standard KR2 >>>> design when there is nothing wrong with it, except from what they may have >>>> heard from someone who has zero flying experience of flying a Kr2 or from >>>> some bloke down the pub or flying club. I've got over 1,000 hours in three >>>> standard KR2's and they are fine... >>>> >>>> Final information for the day. Brakes. Trust me, you need the best brakes >>>> you can get. When its all going a bit wrong, wishing you had fitted better >>>> brakes won't be of much help. >>>> >>>> For examples of how to land a KR2 watch these or loads of other videos on >>>> youtube. >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSJXKZhHkfQ >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FJuTyf2sJc >>>> >>>> maiden flight of a friends KR2. >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omBs9lCkBLI >>>> >>>> >>>> [https://ipmcdn.avast.com/images/icons/icon-envelope-tick-green-avg-v1.png >>>> ]< >>>> http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> >>>> Virus-free. www.avg.com< >>>> http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail >>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>>> options. >>>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Search the KRnet Archives at >>> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >>> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >>> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >>> options. >>> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Search the KRnet Archives at >> https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. >> Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. >> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change >> options. >> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] > > _______________________________________________ > Search the KRnet Archives at > https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. > Please see LIST RULES and KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html. > see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change > options. > To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to [email protected] _______________________________________________ Search the KRnet Archives at https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/. 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