My standard KR2 with Tri-Gear was pitch sensitive at 25% chord. I moved the 12# battery behind the seatback to get 22% chord and now it is not pitch sensitive with 1 person aboard. I have flown with 160# of ballast with a similar result. Text me if you are in my area for some stick time. Copilot should be under 200#.
Ryan N81BP Text 858-229-4875 -----Original Message----- From: Mark Wegmet [mailto:markweg...@charter.net] Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 7:22 PM To: KRnet; Jeff Scott Subject: KR>Re: KR flight characteristics Okay, I'll bite... what kind of trim control does a KR have? Some KR folks have installed various trim devices and even auto-pilots with some success, so not sure where this discussion should go. Mark W(N952MW res) But I'm interested... done collecting parts, starting to build! On 8/23/2021 9:02 PM, Jeff Scott wrote: > A Bonanza can be properly trimmed and is dynamically stable. A stock KR can > do neither. I guess 1400 hrs in a KR wasn't enough training to hone my > skills. > > Still not a qualified as a "real" KR pilot, but at least I'm a slow learner. > :o) <- smiley face just in case someone misses my humor. > > -Jeff Scott > > > >> Sent: Monday, August 23, 2021 at 9:48 AM >> From: "Tommy Waymack" <5blind...@gmail.com> >> To: "KRnet" <krnet@list.krnet.org> >> Subject: KR>Re: KR flight characteristics >> >> After 27 years of flying a stock kr2 . I Still hear here people complaining >> about how the airplane is pitch sensitive. Maybe there is something to be >> said for pilot training. would not change a thing.Beech Bonanza is pitch >> sensitive too. Tommy W. >> >> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 3:21 PM Flesner <fles...@frontier.com> wrote: >> >>> n 8/22/2021 1:25 PM, Jeff Scott wrote: >>> >>>> I flew my KR for 500 hrs without any drag producing devices. Then I >>>> added flaps and significantly modified the tail. I don't think I ever >>>> landed without flaps again other than for training purposes. The >>>> larger tail and deployable drag greatly expanded the operating >>>> envelope of my KR with much improved crosswind performance. My KR >>>> suddenly changed from a calm day flyer to a plane that I could fly in >>>> almost any VFR weather. >>>> >>>> -Jeff Scott >>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>> >>> >>> >>> It's unfortunate that the KR's have the reputation they have based on >>> the original KR2. The 2S built now days is a sleeper on the market. >>> When Jeff moved up to a larger air frame (RV6) he sold one of the best >>> equipped KR's on the market, 50% faster on the same fuel burn, than a >>> C150 for less than $20K. The Wisconsin KR2S just auctioned off is >>> another example of a great bargain. >>> >>> The major problem with the KR is that people have out grown the design. >>> A 200 pound pilot wants to carry a180 pound passenger in a small air >>> frame using 75 h.p. If the 200 pound owner would consider the airplane >>> to be a great single place, and make a few mods to improve the flying >>> characteristics if desired, they would enjoy owning and flying the KR. >>> Mark Langford, being the size person the KR was designed for 50 years >>> ago, flies one of the most stock KR2's all over the Midwest on a regular >>> basis. The flying characteristics are acceptable enough so that he is >>> not yet motivated to repair the 2S he flew prior to that and put it back >>> in the air. >>> >>> The KR has it's flaws but all are well know and can be designed out to >>> have a great flying, economical airplane. 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