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On 2010-03-26T00:36:45+00:00 helios wrote:

Version:            (using KDE 4.4.1)
OS:                Linux
Installed from:    Debian testing/unstable Packages

Simple task: On my activity "System" I want to have a bubble mon, a
processor system monitor, a RAM system monitor and a temperature system
monitor widget on the right side of the 1400x1050 screen of my ThinkPad
T42.

But whenever I try to position them that way plasma desktop insists on
repositioning them at will. For example I tried to move the temperature
system monitor - rotated by 90 degrees just like the other system
monitors - in the right bottom corner, but plasma desktop insists on
positioning partly on top of the memory system monitor.

I find this really annoying. Plasma desktop should just leave the
widgets where I dropped them and never ever move them somewhere else.

I will attach a screenshot.

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On 2010-03-26T00:42:20+00:00 helios wrote:

Created attachment 42263
plasma-desktop insists on re-positioning widgets after I dropped them

See memory and temperature system monitor. I want to place the
temperature one below the memory one, but when ever I drop it there,
plasma-desktop places it partly on top of the memory monitor when I move
the mouse beside the temperature monitor. It initial places it right,
but when I leave the widgets it insists on knowing better than me. It
doesn't and it gotta leave that widgets where I placed it. Period. Did I
say I find this really annoying? No offence meant, just IMHO these
little things diminish usability of Plasma a lot IMHO.

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On 2010-03-26T00:44:45+00:00 helios wrote:

Created attachment 42264
sorry, this is the right one, ksnapshot was in window mode

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On 2010-03-26T00:58:50+00:00 helios wrote:

Created attachment 42265
sometimes it even repositions two or more widgets

I thought I'd give in and have the temperature monitoring widget
horicontally instead. Then I moved the bubble mon, the processor monitor
and the memory monitor more to the left while I wanted them to stay at
the right border of the screen, cause I want to place a Konsole on the
other screen space. And then as I opened Konqueror to add to this report
it even also repositioned the temperature monitor itself again. I placed
it in the bottom right corner!

It seems to dice the positions.

Please reduce some intelligence from the positioning system or get that
intelligence right. I *know* what I am doing!

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On 2010-03-26T01:01:43+00:00 helios wrote:

Created attachment 42266
positions restored after removing temperature monitor widget

It gets even funnier. Now I removed the temperature monitoring widget.
And then Plasma restored the original positions of the other three
widgets, the bubble mon, the processor usage monitor and the memory
usage monitor. Now Plasma again placed them where I placed them
originally. What's going on here?

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On 2010-04-26T21:16:22+00:00 Bojan Vitnik wrote:

I can reproduce this problem in Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx Beta1 (using KDE
4.4.1) and RC (using KDE 4.4.2). It does not just affect positioning of
widgets. Resizing also does not work. Sometimes it keeps size/position,
sometimes it returns to previous size/position. It also affects other
widgets that were not moved or resized. It seems that it only happens
when a new position of a widget covers the previous position. For
example, with large widgets like Folder View, if you move it for a half
of its length, it will return to it original position. Everything
happens as soon as mouse gets out of a widget and side control "slides
back in".

This problem is maybe associated with a feature that returns widgets
that were moved outside desktop area back to the desktop (to be
completely visible).

The interesting thing is that, when you manually restart plasma-desktop,
everything works correctly. Also I could not reproduce this problem on
other distros.

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On 2010-04-26T21:41:23+00:00 helios wrote:

Thanks for your findings, Bojan. Hmmm Debian and Ubuntu. Maybe a problem
with a setting specific to these two distributions? But then Debian and
Kubuntu at least partly appear to use quite different settings. Which
other distros did you try?

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On 2010-04-26T22:47:32+00:00 Bojan Vitnik wrote:

Ubuntu 10.04 (Kubuntu to be exact) Beta1 and RC, that I tested, were
both LiveCDs. I don't have time to install and test them. I also tested
Fedora 13 Beta (using KDE 4.4.1), again LiveCD only, and Chakra (Arch)
latest LiveCD (using KDE 4.4.2). I could not reproduce the bug in Fedora
and Arch.

I also reported the bug on Ubuntu Launchpad but they immediately said
that it is probably a problem with KDE itself, not with their packages,
and advised me to report the bug on bugs.kde.org instead. You can find
the bug report here ->
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/569877 . I
mentioned your bug report there.

I'm surprised that no one confirmed this bug anywhere but I myself can
reproduce it on two different computers. Are people blind, or the bug
does not affect them?

I did not try to boot Kubuntu in virtual machine but I will.

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On 2010-05-15T20:10:53+00:00 Bojan Vitnik wrote:

Here is a video showing the bug. The test was done in VirtualBox but
same happens if I boot LiveCD directly.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b3TuEECXyg

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On 2010-05-16T15:02:31+00:00 Radko Dinev wrote:

Running Kubuntu 10.04 LTS, KDE 4.4.2.
I have the same problem - it affects both position and size of widgets.

The problem occurs inconsistently - when you resize or move a widget the 
position and size get restored most often, but sometimes (although rare) they 
don't.
After a lot of resizing and repositioning I achieved the desired layout of 4 
Folder View widgets on my desktop and locked the widgets, however after reboot 
their size was restored to the default one for the widget and they were 
randomly positioned (and overlapped).

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On 2010-07-03T00:10:49+00:00 Nikola Snele wrote:

I can confirm this bug. It is present in Kubuntu Lucid and Kubuntu
Maverick alpha 2.

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On 2010-08-16T12:45:28+00:00 FiNeX wrote:

*** Bug 242973 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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On 2010-08-16T13:38:00+00:00 FiNeX wrote:

*** Bug 243007 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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On 2010-10-14T04:05:18+00:00 Todd R wrote:

I'm having this problem as well, with folderview particularly.

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On 2010-10-14T15:10:02+00:00 Bojan Vitnik wrote:

(In reply to comment #13)
> I'm having this problem as well, with folderview particularly.

What version of KDE SC? Bug seems to be gone in KDE 4.5.1 at least in
Kubuntu 10.10.

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On 2010-10-14T16:53:03+00:00 Todd R wrote:

I'm using 4.5.2 on opensuse.  I don't recall having the problem when I
reconfigured my desktop in 4.5.0 or 4.5.1, but I am definitely having in
in 4.5.2.

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On 2010-10-14T17:52:46+00:00 FiNeX wrote:

I confirm that sometimes it happens on KDE 4.5.2, but it is more
difficult to reproduce

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On 2011-02-01T05:42:28+00:00 fergal wrote:

Recently upgraded to KDE 4.* and just noticed this problem. Running KDE
4.4.5 on Ubuntu 10.04. Resizing icons frequently fails. When it
succeeds, resizing a different icon causes the first icon to return to
the default size. Moving widgets (e.g folder view) around is often
ignored

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On 2011-05-28T19:10:56+00:00 Caionnew wrote:

*** Bug 236768 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***

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On 2011-07-31T06:38:56+00:00 Todd R wrote:

This bug has re-appeared in KDE 4.7.

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On 2015-11-01T13:20:59+00:00 Navid-zamani wrote:

This bug exists since I migrated to KDE 4 for the first time, and
/still/ exists in all its painfully embarrassing glory. (It is the main*
reason I tell people kDE 4 is /still/ in beta and always will be. ;)

Dear KDE developers: Are you interested /at all/ in fixing this bug?
Because I can guarantee I can help you reproduce it.

___
(* The general reason KDE is still an unstable beta, is because literally 
everything breaks if one actually /uses/ those features that go beyond a Gnome 
(read: “DERP”) level. [Like separate widgets on the dashboard.] Somebody needs 
to tell the KDE “devs”, that barely using any features doesn’t qualify as 
“WORKSFORME”. If one wanted that, one would use Gnome.)

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