On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Clive Johnston <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Valorie, > > Yes, there are huge disagreements on what needs to be done. Yet again, I am > absolutely livid and just had to walk away from IRC before I did or said > something I'd regret. For me, this is becoming too frequent and I can't > continue to donate my time to something that just makes me angry and drains > all the fun and positive energy which I used to enjoy while contributing to > this project.
I'm really sorry to hear that, Clive. I've so enjoyed your time on the team, and with you in person. > I have come to the conclusion that the problem is actually me and my own > feelings, as I seem to be the only person who is being affect by this. Maybe, > the recent events in my personal life are being projected onto how I interact > with the Kubuntu Community/Team and how I deal with stress in general. I > don't know :( Sometimes it seems that you and Santa are both taking professional disagreements personally, and it seems to devolve into an argument rather than a dialog. It's painful to see, because it is obvious you are both feeling bad about the way it's going. > So, I feel that I should step aside and take some time to work out my > relationship with the team and figure out how I can contribute and actually > enjoy doing it. I have been reading the logs on how this has been dealt with > in the past, but can't seem to find anything. Can the Kubuntu Council please > advise me on how this works? Do you need me to formally resign/step down to > allow someone to take my place? My opinion is that if you, like Philip, have to step back, that's what you need to do. Burnout is terrible, and I for one do not want to see that happen to you. I would personally request that you not resign now. Take a week or two off and see how you feel. I hope you miss us and want to come back. I missed you when you were with your brother in hospital, and I'll miss you now. Chime in, Council? > Thank-you for your understanding and support, > Clive > On Thursday, 3 November 2016 13:52:26 GMT Valorie Zimmerman wrote: >> The notes on our Vision meeting don't tell the whole story. While it >> is unfortunate that we couldn't meeting in BBB for the meeting, we >> still did the work (even if it was a bit draggy) in IRC. The most >> important part, to me, was that most of the developers gave their >> positions. I'm just sorry that Philip was not there, and that we >> couldn't finish. >> >> What I've observed over the past few weeks is that when Clive, Philip, >> Santa and sometimes Rik talk among themselves, we get things done. So >> I hope you guys will do that more. >> >> Right now, it seems that KCI is working, but I've heard that it is >> not. Is it working? If not, what remains to be done? >> >> I heard disagreement about what needs doing next. Can we hear about >> that in more detail? I don't think this should wait for another >> meeting. >> >> Valorie -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-council Post to : [email protected] Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-council More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

