On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 3:02 PM, David Edmundson <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Harald Sitter <[email protected]> > wrote: >> On Thursday 09 June 2011 20:57:04 David Edmundson wrote: >>> For the KDE side of things I intend to have a QML powered greeter >>> engine. This will display any QML file as the greeter, and provide all >>> the linking to the LightDM daemon and general models and such. >>> >>> This enables anyone to build a login theme without any compiling, and >>> makes it completely safe for the end user. >>> I've outlined my goals/design/reasoning in more detail here: >>> http://static.davidedmundson.co.uk/lightdm_goals.txt >> >> Sounds awesome. >> I'd like to propose two goals though: >> a) accessible >> b) scalibility (should work well with ldap setups with >10 users etc.) > > Completely agreed. > > Part b should mostly be being handled by the LightDM daemon (Robert's > part) so if it's good enough for Ubuntu it will work for us. > >> >>> There is also a shiny picture of what my demo greeter looks like here: >>> http://static.davidedmundson.co.uk/lightdm_2.png. Note the use of >>> plasma widgets. >>> It's not finished, but it shows what I'm doing. I imagine kubuntu will >>> want to Kubuntu-ify it a bit. If anyone has any designs let me know. >> >> Mockup by sheytan: http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/7461/basegi.jpg >> I believe this would be a good default. Something I never liked about the >> current KDM default is that you cannot click somewhere to select your user, >> but instead had to know your user name *eeek*. >> To that extent the user name login box perhaps should be non-editable if you >> selected a user and only become editable on click. Just a random thought >> though. >> > A users list is next on the agenda. All the stuff is in the library > and engine to do it. Should be done by Tuesday. > > >>> This is in development here: >>> http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=scratch%2Fdavidedmundson%2Flightdmqmlgreeter.git&; >>> a=summary There is a demo theme here: >>> http://quickgit.kde.org/?p=scratch%2Fdavidedmundson%2Flightdmdemogreeter.git >>> &a=summary >>> >>> It requires the latest master of lightdm to compile (lp:lightdm). >> >> Could someone get this in a PPA please or perhaps the neon people could get >> weekly builds going? > > Not me, I hate packaging. It's waaaaaaaaaay too difficult. >> >>> I've made a bit of a start on the KDM settings module, but I don't >>> know any policyKit so will get stuck with that shortly. I'm working on >>> kde's git repos as I want this to be an upstream thing, though the >>> general feedback on my blog was fairly negative so I've not approached >>> anyone yet. >> >> With polkit we can help. I think just about everyone in the programming part >> of the team had done polkit at one point or another. > > Thanks, I'll push my systemsettings module when it's sort of sensible > then get someone to help PolKit it, or at least explain to me what I > need to do. > >> >> As for the comments: you should beware of how important they are. They >> neither >> reflect common opinion nor particularly technical reasoning (especially the >> ones on your post from a quick glance). The only two valuable concerns I >> noticed were: supreme PAM support and enterprise readiness. Both things that >> should entirely be secured before going anywhere with LightDM IMHO. >> >>> Moving forwards, I think I should take discussion about KDE and >>> LightDM off the kubuntu ML and maybe onto the LightDM ML? I'm not sure >>> if I'm bugging people. I also need some opinions from you and to get >>> some more people on board. >> >> If you feel it makes more sense there... Having stuff here is not >> particularly >> distrubing though, especially since we get free status updates that way :P >> >> What sort of people do you need? >> > I know from the past that one-man projects tend to fail eventually, if > I get busy or die in a catastrophic accident there needs to be people > who can continue the work. Mostly I just need people to follow the > development to tell me if I'm doing something stupid. > > Also accessibility is on our goal list (as of now) I know nothing > about that. What stuff is important in a login manager? > - Choosing large fonts? > - Screen readers? > > Does this need to happen at run time, or can it be in the systemsettings > module?
I'm CC'ing the Ubuntu accessibility devel list as there are people there who could likely help us make sure accessibility is done right. :=) Jussi > >> regards, >> Harald >> >> > > -- > kubuntu-devel mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > -- kubuntu-devel mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
