On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 12:52 AM, Jonathan Thomas <[email protected]> wrote: > As project maintainer for the Muon Suite, the way I see things going > is keeping the existing QWidget-based Muon Software Center throughout > the life of Qt/KDE4, as it will integrate best with the current > Qt/KDE4 QWidget-based environment. I'll probably port the existing > Software Center to Qt5 when the switch occurs in major distributions, > but development will pretty much be "finished" in that no more new > features will be added. Qt5 will remain mostly source-compatible with > Qt4,so this shouldn't be more than just changing a few #includes in > the source code. Essentially, the current Software Center will go in > to maintenance mode. > > When KDE Foundations 5 bears fruit and we get a comprehensive > KDE-standard way of writing QML applications (The Qt QML Desktop > Components currently targeted for release for Qt 5.1 or 5.2 seem to be > a prime candidate for this) is the time when I see Muon Discover > "taking over the reigns" as the official app installer of the Muon > Suite. I believe Aleix has even made a branch in Git that uses the > alpha version of the QML Desktop Components. My main concern is that > KDE apps will "jump the gun" with QML and start to re-implement all > their widgets and themes in QML and lose coherence with the rest of > the KDE desktop, and I don't want that to happen with Muon.
Yes, there's such a branch using desktop components (again video, in case anyone is interested [1]). I must say the port from Plasma Components to Desktop Components so it's not really a big deal. I must say that all KDE applications won't implement their styling and there's a very simple reason for that, we'd need a huge amount of artwork we don't have access to :). Anyhow, I'll make my best to have Muon Discover as much integrated with KDE as possible. > > But as it stands, Muon Discover currently uses Plasma QML components > for widgets/theming and integrates beautifully with the Plasma Active > environment. I could very well see shipping Muon Discover next release > as part of Kubuntu Active. I should warn you that Muon Discover wasn't tested on any touch device and things might not work. My interest regarding Muon Discover is for workspace-like uses so I'm not sure I'll try that any time soon. Of course, patches are welcome and I'll be glad to help. > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 6:36 PM, James <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Tuesday, April 24, 2012 04:19:19 PM Aleix Pol wrote: >> >>> Hi! >> >>> As some of you will know already, I've been working on a new Muon >> >>> sub-project called Muon Discover. The idea of this application is to >> >>> provide a comfortable application where we can navigate through all >> >>> repositories browse the available applications and provide the >> >>> (hopefully) best tool to find the closest to what the user's looking >> >>> for. >> >>> >> >>> Here there's a video displaying what it does, in case you're just curious: >> >>> http://proli.net/meu/netrunner/muon-installer-qml-8.ogv >> >>> >> >>> We have created a ppa providing this (and some other stuff): >> >>> https://launchpad.net/~cyberspace/+archive/cyber-stuff >> >>> >> >>> I'm sending this e-mail because I'd like to know what the KUbuntu >> >>> community thinks about this, so if you happen to have comments about >> >>> this, don't hesitate to answer here or contact me. >> >>> >> >>> Also I'd like to remind the kubuntu community that the >> >>> screenshots.debian.org service is responsible for feeding us the >> >>> screenshots that will be displayed to the future KDE applications >> >>> users, so some initiative for making sure KDE applications are >> >>> properly represented there would be helpful, because at the moment >> >>> it's not on the best state (proofs [1]). I have created some tools for >> >>> this if somebody is interested. >> >>> >> >>> Cheers! >> >>> Aleix >> >>> >> >>> [1] >> >>> http://screenshots.debian.net/package/kmail >> >>> http://screenshots.debian.net/package/kontact >> >>> http://screenshots.debian.net/package/kdevelop >> >>> http://screenshots.debian.net/package/okular >> >> >> >> This looks like a great start and also a much-needed tool for deepening the >> end-user's experience. We are all maily used to the "app store" philosophy >> now, and this is especially true for new Linux users who are used to an >> Apple or Android-type experience. Also, I really like the sort options! >> >> >> >> One question for discussion however: How can all this be presented properly >> to the end user so that it is not confusing? There is already potential >> confusion withon Muon itself: new users do not understand the difference >> between the Muon Package Manager and Muon Software Center, let alone throw >> in Muon Update Manager. See here for expample >> >> >> >> Do you see this as a replacement for the Muon Software Center? Keep up the >> good work :) >> >> >> >> - James Cain >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> kubuntu-devel mailing list >> [email protected] >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel >> > > -- > kubuntu-devel mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel Aleix [1] http://proli.net/meu/netrunner/muon-installer-desktopcomponents2.ogv -- kubuntu-devel mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
