On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Harald Sitter <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Clay Weber <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I am not sure if it does so when installed, but I recall having to add
> the
> > Presence widget to the tray. The tray icons could be better somehow
> maybe.
>
> Ultimately we'd get message-indicator support in which case it would
> show up in the m-i plasmoid, failing to get that I suppose adding the
> presence plasmoid to the default setup is the way to go IMHO.
>

The presence plasmoid allows you to control whether you're online, away,
etc.  Which (AFAIK) isn't built into m-i. It also makes using KTp a lot
easier to use, as it acts as a sort of "dock" for the contact list. If you
do add it to the default setup, I would add it into the system tray, rather
than in the panel.

If the plasmoid isn't running the contact list gives a warning when you
first close saying "you're closing the contact, you will still remain
online and have nothing to show you this. Add the plasmoid!".  (the wording
is slightly different, I can't remember what it is exactly).

tl;dr: Adding it to the default would be really useful.

The outstanding issue with message-indicator (
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=303473) is going to need to be patched
downstream. With my KTp hat on, it's your message indicator duplicating
stuff we do - and we can't remove it as not every distro uses m-i, so
there's nothing we can do.
Last time it was discussed we did have a plan on how this patch could work,
I think it's in the ML thread linked to on the bug report.

Dave

HS
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