On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 06:40:20 PM Martin Gräßlin wrote: > On Wednesday 17 October 2012 12:24:38 Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 05:59:23 PM Martin Gräßlin wrote: > > > Hi Kubuntu-Developers, > > > > > > please note: I'm not subscribed, please CC me in replies > > > > > > I just wanted to inform you (in case you are not yet aware of it) that > > > we > > > in KWin started to receive a bunch of bug reports for Kubuntu 12.10 in > > > the combination with the Intel drivers since this weekend. > > > > > > The issues are: > > > * crashes (e.g. Bug #308369) > > > * performance problems (e.g. Bug #308385) > > > * rendering issues (e.g. Bug #308439) > > > > > > So far we do not have enough data to say whether there is a real and > > > general issue, but I'm concerned enough to send this mail. > > > > > > What we know is that the issues are related to Mesa 9.0 which got > > > released > > > just last week. Several users told us that downgrading to Mesa 8 the > > > problems go away (of course not an option for Kubuntu users). > > > > > > My recommendation would be to put a word of warning into the release > > > note. > > > I find the situation very difficult as I neither want you to warn about > > > a > > > problem that does not exist, on the other hand I don't want users to run > > > into the issue and then blaming KDE for bad performance. > > > > > > Also for the next cycle I would recommend to try to increase the > > > timespan > > > between Mesa driver releases and the release of Ubuntu. I don't think > > > it's > > > a good idea to ship a new Mesa version before the rolling release > > > distributions have played guinea pig ;-) > > > > I'm all for not breaking things. One point of clarification though ... > > > > Quantal has had git snapshots of mesa 9 since August, so it's not like > > they > > suddenly jumped all the way from 8 to 9 at the last second. > > right, but still it is: > a) unlikely that those got tested by a large user base > b) possible that the regression got introduced lately
I did talk with the Ubuntu X people and we're going to try some of the intermediate packages and see where the regression got introduced. If we can narrow it down, then we'll see about a post-release fix. I'm not arguing your point, I agree. I was just trying to clarify. If someone has an affected system, please join us on #kubuntu-devel and help us get this sorted. Scott K -- kubuntu-devel mailing list [email protected] Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel
