Even if, we can make a Browser choice page which will be the first one opened in rekonq or add Browser choice to installer. 23 sty 2013 15:45, "Rohan Garg" <[email protected]> napisał(a):
> Hi > > Please not that we cannot ship some multimedia things like libav due > to patent issues as a result of which apps like vlc cannot be shipped > ( and by extension, same thing goes for chromium though I am not > entirely sure about that, maybe someone can offer a better explanation > of why we can't ship chromium as the default ). > > <snip> > > > > > -change the default /home folder icons (music, doc, etc) > > Please propose these upstream ( [email protected] should suffice, > unless someone proposes a better list ), I can't think of a reason as > to why this should be in Kubuntu and not in KDE itself. > > -add avatar and > > wifi connecting support to installer > Oh yes, this would be really cool to have, who wants to volunteer? :D > > -add KDEWEB accounts, run it on the > > first kubuntu start after installation > > I'd like to hear Alex Fiesta's as well as other Kubuntu Developers > opinions on this, there is also no release of WebAccounts at the > moment, so we should keep that in mind. > > I also think that it shouldn't be run when the desktop starts because > you want to start working straightaway, but that's just me. > > > -add notification-helper for kipi plugins (first gwenview start) > > Probably should be added to the list of packages the > kubuntu-notification-helper asks the user to install when it starts up > > > - add default wallpaper package or atleast a > > few cool ones > > We do ship the default wallpaper we get from KDE, Elarun for Raring, > Ariya for Quantal > > > -improve lightdm default them: move system buttons to center, > > use monochromatic icons, 48x48 > > Please send mockups and code to David Edmundson :) > He's d_ed on Freenode, channel : #kde-lightdm > > > > -switch to chrome/chromium. All new to > > kubuntu people ask about chrome/firefox. It's best browser anyway ;) > > Firefox doesn't really have good KDE integration by default which is > why we've rejected it in earlier releases ( Plasma Download > notifications, File Dialogs, Button placement, etc etc) > > As for Chromium, see the first couple of lines of this reply. > > > -finally fix or remove the sharing KCM form systemsetings. Why is this > thing > > stuck for so long?! -make user configuration USER FRIENDLY! Let it be a > KCM > > not a standalone app. This sucks ;) > > Alex Fiestas is working on this, though I haven't seen a screenshot or > anything :) > > Not to mention user management is currently broken in Raring due to > python3 migration. We are coming up with better alternatives and will > probably decide once Alex shows us his new user management KCM. > > www.launchpad.net/~rohangarg > > > > > 23 sty 2013 02:33, "AG Alex" <[email protected]> napisał(a): > >> > >> Hi everyone, I'm a new member with few years of experience using > >> Kubuntu..., please be patient with my English, I'm still working on > it.... > >> I'm writing to talk about Users First Experience improvement in Kubuntu, > >> which is not the best we can do at moment especially for First Time > Users, > >> in my opinion of course. > >> > >> The current default configuration of Kubuntu (until 12.10) seems to be > >> targeting just experienced users, which once installed a new system > doesn't > >> have any problem to build its own environment around its needs, but they > >> wouldn't have any problem to do it even with a much more full > functionality > >> default configuration, while for a new user of Kubuntu it will be > impossible > >> even to simply imagine the powerful of the KDE environment with current > >> default settings. > >> > >> So why don't we change the target of the default settings to aim the > >> Newbbie needs instead of experienced users, they can anyway customize > and > >> set up everything they need in few steps. I mean, a bit of "sacrifice" > for > >> experienced user could become something really helpful for New Users. > >> Even much better of course would be to gives, if possible, a choice > during > >> the installation process to set the Environment in few different ways, > one > >> could be"Minimal Basic Functionality" (for experienced Users), other > could > >> be "Fully Functionality Mode" (to show the real power of KDE) , other > again > >> could be a kind of "Learning Mode" where in my opinion Activities can > become > >> very helpful, and so on..... > >> But I'm not a developer and maybe it's impossible to do it, or maybe it > >> will be possible just having a much more centralized configuration > system, > >> where would be really nice to have a set of tools to export and share > any > >> aspect of any single part of of the DE configuration (but maybe in other > >> post we can talk about it). > >> > >> > >> Talking about New Default Settings optimized for first time Users, > >> involves of course few different aspects like default packages > installed, > >> default desktop environment include plasma and plasmoids, and than > default > >> activities where to show many different aspect of KDE functionality > combined > >> with the best applications of Kubuntu repositories. > >> > >> Default Packages: > >> In my opinion there are few change to do on default installed packages, > >> simply because some application are not ready yet to be used, or in some > >> other case, very useful tool are not installed by default. > >> > >> Applications: > >> > >> Rekonq, is not ready yet and I cannot see any good reason to use a "not > >> ready yet software" as a default application, especially because we are > >> talking about the Default Tool to Access the Web, which is a 90% daily > use > >> of computer for most of the people out there. > >> I know, there is an installer launcher of Firefox and it's really simple > >> to use, but in my opinion after hours of installation in some case, is > >> really disarming do another installation and write password , simply to > >> surfing the web in a reasonable way, isn't ? I mean, there are few > great > >> software out there, are open source, stable, powerful, already on > >> repository, every day more used......, why don't use one of it by > default. > >> Are we sure the best solution is to propose a not ready yet software to > do > >> the job ?, even because in my case it means to have any link clicked in > >> Thunderbird opened in Rekonq , even if I change the default browser on > >> system settings to use chromium (it seems to works just if is already > >> opened). > >> > >> Dragon Player, is a good player but maybe there are some other great > >> software like vlc already in repositories, which can gives to the users > a > >> much more complete and powerful solution to play with multimedia > contents, > >> and I'm pretty sure vlc is one of the first installation "extra" once > >> complete the Kubuntu one, for many users. > >> > >> Talking about Utility, there are few nice utility right on the > repository > >> that could be installed by default, and for utility like Ksnapshot > already > >> installed would be much better to use a launcher on some panel, where > would > >> be nice as well to have some software to screencast the desktop, or even > >> nice tools and some time essentials (depending on your job type), like > >> Kruler, KcolorChooser, KCharSelect and so on..... I mean they are really > >> small and so essential tools in some cases that really makes the > difference. > >> > >> We want talk about Yakuake ?, I think there isn't better way to always > >> have as much konsole instances as you need in a practice and nice way, > and > >> for new people, would be the easiest way possible to access the konsole > when > >> asking support on IRC and someone of us will say "..ok just pass those > >> commands on the konsole.." just pressing F12 in the default Yakuake > >> installation. > >> > >> Plasmoids: > >> > >> There are many good and useful plasmoids on repository, which can be > very > >> handy to gives a much more complete idea of what actually can be done in > >> Plasma. Just to mention few of them Quick Access should be much more > used on > >> default desktop in my opinion, pointing for example on Document, Images, > >> Videos, Music and Download folders, using few instances of it. Another > >> interesting plasmoid to show could be translatoid , which is a really > useful > >> tool when multilanguage contents is your daily works. A calcuator, a > >> converter, and everything can gives a better ideas about what can be > done in > >> plasma in a quick and easy way. > >> > >> Activities: > >> > >> Actitivities presets should be based only on application already > installed > >> by default, and to have some basic example of content in some cases can > be > >> much more comfortable to immediately understand the purpose of an > activity. > >> Activities presets with example contents, can be used as well for a kind > >> of teaching purpose, well I guess some basic note or even few html > pages to > >> explain something visualized in plasmoids like Web Browser, next to the > >> applications you want to teach opened with example already loaded, > would be > >> easier for anyone willing to learn any kind of knowledge. > >> > >> Functionality: > >> > >> I fill really comfortable with some "extra functionality" enabled like > >> rolling up and down a window just within the mouse wheel, can be very > useful > >> if you used to work with a lot of opened tasks. Talking about buttons > on the > >> window decorations I use a lot the button to "keep Above Others", and > I'm > >> quite sure most of the new user not even knows it can be done, instead > once > >> is there it's really easy to understand how and when to use it. > >> Another fancy and some time useful features that can be enabled by > default > >> is the ability to change the transparency of a window just pressing ALT > and > >> rolling the mouse wheel. > >> > >> I guess a second panel on the top of the screen can do most of the job > I'm > >> talking about if well equipped with plasmoid and applications launcher, > and > >> would be very easy to remove for the people don't like or don't need > it, you > >> don't think so ?. > >> And if using Activities even the top panel (with plasmoids and launcher) > >> could be combined with opened applications and desktop plasmoids for any > >> Activities , would even be funny to create Activities to do tasks > complete > >> of documentation, example and so on....., nicely managed with plasmoids > in a > >> kind of "tematic top panel". > >> > >> To gives you an idea about how I'm used to work in Kubuntu, here an > >> example of my current desktop , which maybe is to much customized > respect > >> the default one, but maybe something in between could be the right > solution > >> for the default configuration of Kubuntu. > >> > >> Well, I think to be my first post on this mailing list I already wrote > too > >> much, but hopefully I could make you understand why I consider so > important > >> the first impact arriving on a completely new Operating System, > especially > >> if the system we are talking about has a lot of great and useful > features to > >> be showed. > >> I hope so because the current default settings of Kubuntu does not > express > >> so much of the KDE + Ubuntu combination potentiality, like instead > should be > >> in my opinion. > >> > >> I hope I haven't bored you, and that do you agree with some of my idea > to > >> improve the first Kubuntu experience, and if so , we can talk about it > as > >> deeply as we needs. > >> > >> Thanks for reading me, and much more for the amazing work you always did > >> keeping Kubuntu alive.... > >> > >> Alex > >> > >> > >> -- > >> kubuntu-devel mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > >> > > > > -- > > kubuntu-devel mailing list > > [email protected] > > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel > > > > -- > kubuntu-devel mailing list > [email protected] > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel >
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