On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 05:37:08PM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> On 06/03/2014 04:21 PM, Gabriel L. Somlo wrote:
> >On Tue, Jun 03, 2014 at 11:17:48AM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >>I think it's fine as it is now. :)
> >On Mon, Jun 02, 2014 at 09:55:18PM -0400, Gabriel L. Somlo wrote:
> >>W.r.t. monitor/mwait, a guest can do one of the following:
> >>
> >>1. Never check CPUID, and never use monitor/mwait
> >>    - This is great, we don't have to do anything about these
> >>
> >>2. Check CPUID for mwait, use it to idle in preference over hlt
> >>    - Linux, Windows, and Mavericks (10.9) do this
> >>    - we never want to have CPUID say "yes" to these, since
> >>      monitor/mwait support will be clunky in the best case,
> >>      and hlt is overwhelmingly preferable! [*]
> >>
> >>3. Never check CPUID, use monitor/mwait with abandon
> >>    - OS X 10.6 .. 10.8 does this
> >>    - emulating monitor/mwait here allows us to boot the guest
> >>      and use it, and perform sysadmin surgery to force a hlt
> >>      based idle
> >>
> >>4. Check CPUID, panic if unavailable
> >>    - OS X 10.5 did this, IIRC.
> >>    - whether I can do kext surgery and get it to stop checking
> >>      CPUID *in addition to* falling back to hlt-based idle is
> >>      TBD.
> >>    - emulating monitor/mwait allows us to boot this type of
> >>      guest, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO ADVERTISE IT VIA CPUID !!!
> >As it is right now, #4 is not being addressed (and we can't just
> >advertise mwait via cpuid, or we'd be screwing up #2).
> 
> I think we should be able to handle #4 by doing -cpu core2duo,+monitor on
> the QEMU command line which should override the cpuid bits that the kernel
> tells us.

Using that (with kvm patched to do monitor = mwait = nop, but without
advertising it in cpuid), I still get a "Monitor feature not present"
panic with the 10.5.6 Leopard install DVD. Patching kvm to add F(MWAIT)
to kvm_supported_word4_x86_features gets me past that panic. Did you
mean "-cpu core2duo,+monitor" should work right now, or that we'd have
to add a quick patch to QEMU to make it happen ? (it doesn't complain
when I do that now, just doesn't work :)

Thx,
--Gabriel

> 
> 
> Alex
> 
> >
> >I also feel a bit weird about the "undocumented feature" aspect
> >of NOT generating an invalid opcode for something that *should*
> >be an invalid opcode according to the feature set advertised via
> >cpuid...
> >
> >So if there's a way to make it so we can tell QEMU/KVM to
> >"--enable-mwait" on a per-guest basis, I think that'd be better
> >than an always-on "undocumented" behavior...
> >
> >But then again, I'm most likely missing something about the big
> >picture... :)
> >
> >Thanks much,
> >--Gabriel
> 
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