Mark McLoughlin wrote:
So long as the restrictions would be known to the management app via
some "what slots are available" mechanism in qemu, that sounds fine.

I'm not sure a "what slots are available" mechanism is as straight forward as has been claimed. It doesn't matter though because it's orthogonal to the current proposal.

I'm not at all arguing against pci_addr. I'm arguing about how libvirt should use it with respect to the "genesis" use-case where libvirt has no specific reason to choose one PCI slot over another. In that case, I'm merely advocating that we want to let QEMU make the decision.
However this may end up, isn't it offtopic? Whatever we do we have to support both pci_addr= and default placement, so we can push this discussion to livirt-devel and bid them godspeed.

Presumably you're not proposing that qemu-devel completely ignore the
typical requirements of management apps?

This is a happy case where the current proposals allow both usages to occur. Which one libvirt chooses it up to it.

To summarize, I think we have:

1) Introduce addressing to all host device configurations
- Either in the canonical form "pci_addr=bus:dev.fn or target=3,lun=1" or in flattened form "addr=bus:dev.fn or addr=target.lun". I prefer the later form but I think either would be acceptable.

2) Whenever the default machine type changes in a guest-visible way, introduce a new machine type - Use explicit versions in name: pc-v1, pc-v2 or use more descriptive names pc-with-usb
 - Easily transitions to device config files

Regards,

Anthony Liguori
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