On Wednesday 31 March 2010 21:32:18 you wrote:
> On 03/30/10 07:04, Beinicke, Thomas wrote:
> > On Tuesday 30 March 2010 10:08:28 Sebastian Hetze wrote:
> >> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:31:13AM +0100, Athanasius wrote:
> >>> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 01:46:35PM +0200, Sebastian Hetze wrote:
> >>>> this message appeared in the KVM guest kern.log last night:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Mar 27 22:35:30 guest kernel: [260041.559462] Clocksource tsc unstable
> >>>> (delta = -4398046474878 ns)
> >>>> 
> >>>> The guest is running a 2.6.31-20-generic-pae ubuntu kernel with
> >>>> hrtimer-tune-hrtimer_interrupt-hang-logic.patch applied.
> >>>> 
> >>>> If I understand things correct, in kernel/time/clocksource.c
> >>>> clocksource_watchdog() checks all the
> >>>> /sys/devices/system/clocksource/clocksource0/available_clocksource
> >>>> every 0.5sec for an delta of more than 0.0625s. So the tsc must have
> >>>> changed more than one hour within two subsequent calls of
> >>>> clocksource_watchdog. No event in the host nor anything in the
> >>>> guest gives reasonable cause for this step.
> >>>> 
> >>>> However, the number 4398046474878 is only 36226 ns away from
> >>>> 4*1024*1024*1024*1024
> >>>> 
> >>>   I didn't see any such messages but I've had a recent experience with
> >>> 
> >>> the time on one KVM host leaping *forwards* approx. 5 and 2.5 hours in
> >>> two separate incidents.  Eerily the exact jumps, as best I can tell
> >>> from logs are of 17592 and 8796 seconds, give or take a second or two.
> >>>  If you look at these as nanoseconds then that's 'exactly' 2^44 and
> >>> 2^43 nanoseconds.
> >>> 
> >>>   What I've done that seems to have avoided this happening again is
> >>>   drop
> >>> 
> >>> KVM_CLOCK kernel option from the kvm guests' kernel.
> >> 
> >> To my understanding, kvm-clock is the best and most reliable clocksource
> >> available, so I do not think it is a good idea to disable it.
> >> 
> >> There is a lot of bit shift operation happening with the clocksources,
> >> so there may be a real bug hidden somewhere in the code.
> >> Somehow ntp adjustment is involved, can this cause such huge steps?
> >> Im my case, I actually have NTP running in the guest. However, the
> >> statistics show a pretty stable timing here.
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> > 
> > I am having the same problem occasional.
> > It only occurs if the VM is under heavy IO or CPU Load but I can't
> > reproduce it 100%. It just never occurs on VMs that only serve a few web
> > pages though. I also noticed that on a machine which has this problem
> > even an ssh shell is *very* laggy so it's not just a cosmetic problem.
> > 
> > Would removing the hrtimer from the kernel config solve it or is it
> > necessary for KVM?
> > 
> > I remember this problem has been posted her before though there wasn't
> > any real conclusion or solution for it.
> 
> Are you also running a 32-bit kernel?

I have the problem on 32-bit and 64-bit clients.
The host machines are all 64-bit.

> Thanks,
> 
> Zach

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