They may not want all lines (or sets) recorded. What I was alluding to in an
earlier post was the fact that, in IL, there must be a non-recorded line
available for private calls. For example, a prisoner talking to an attorney
must NOT be on a recorded line.

I believe there must be a non-recorded line available also for employees to
make personal calls. At least that's what I've been advised, but I couldn't
cite a specific reference.

IMHO, I find it simpler for everyone if you can designate phones as recorded
or not recorded, rather than lines, especially with trunk groups.

In the specific systems I mentioned earlier, they aren't set up to record
all sets, only about 8 sets.

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Subject: RE: KX-T: Re: Re: Re: Re: Recording Multi Lines


| Hi Guys,
|
| Thanks for all the feedback !
|
| One good thing is the 911 center is county based, so I don't have those
| problems to deal with.
| The PD is only using POTTS lines so taping into the CO looks like the best
| solution for now.
|
| The system is being installed into a new municipal building, so the TD500
| will be set up as different groups.
| Municipal dept, Judge & Clerk office, Mayors office & Clerks, Town garage
| dept., and of course the PD.
|
| The Chief is the only one who wants all 8 CO's recorded, so is sounds to
me
| like I should be able to obtain a PC based digital recording unit with 8
| ports to do the job.
|
| The argument I see is either tapping the station side vs. tapping the CO
| directly.
|
| The PD will have 12 extensions, tapping the station side may not be
| practical due to the fact that calls may be transferred from the call
taker
| to an officer, then transferred again to a detective or LT.
|
| What do you Guys think ??
|
| Wolfgang
| NTC
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
| Charles P.
| Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 21:09
| To: Dave Phelps; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject: KX-T: Re: Re: Re: Re: Recording Multi Lines
|
|
|
|
| >
| > I don't agree. Station side would be preferred.
| >
| > Recording from the trunk side can be difficult when you are using PRI or
| T1.
| > Also, if you record from the CO lines, then you have to have some
special
| > procedure to use a non-recorded line, be it a separate line, separate
| trunk
| > group, etc. Trunk-wise, its rather wasteful. Some people will always use
| > non-recorded lines, which ties them up also.
| >
|
| Possibly, my thinking goes back a few years, evolving from the huge
| MagnaSync and Dictaphone reel to reel units. The small town pd's were
| concerned with recording calls only on their main incoming lines
| -- perhaps 4 to 8 lines. Someone getting TD500 might be dealing with a few
| more lines and extensions than a small department would have. If it's T1
or
| PRI going right into the pbx, then they might be stuck.
|
| > Its much easier to identify recorded phones vs non-recorded phones.
| >
| > OTOH, since the OP is asking about a digital Panasonic, he'll either be
| > forced to record trunk side or use the handset taps. Between those two
| > choices, I think I would choose trunk side. To be sure, they will have
to
| do
| > a cost analysis of the extra cost of non-recorded trunks vs rejacking
all
| > the station locations that will be recorded with dual jacks, and
possibly
| > running new cable if there aren't any spare pairs. A lot probably
depends
| on
| > the size of the PD.
|
| Cost wise, recording the trunks should be far less than dedicating a
record
| channel to each extension. Identifying who placed or received the call is
| usually less important than the content. You could correlate the smdr with
| the recordings if you needed to id extensions or operators.  It would make
| sense for one of the recorder manufacturers to be able to connect the smdr
| to the recorder so the call data could be displayed with the voice data.
| They might already do this on some of the pc based recorders (wishful
| thinking)?
|
| They may want the ability to have instant replay at an operator's desk -
| this could be done with a unit dedicated for that purpose. I've seen units
| made with a certain number of minutes being digitally recorded, and the
most
| recent activity available for instant playback.  If it was a 911 call
center
| they would probably want something different all together.
|
|
| Thinking out loud,
| Charles
|
|
|
|
|
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