Hello Sophie, *, On Mittwoch, 11. Dezember 2013 17:19 Sophie wrote: <snip> > I would like to open a discussion on the l10n workflow, the > quality of the en_US version and the Help files. All is linked and > I would like to discuss how we can improve the process here. I'm > sure that having a better understanding between the l10n process > and the dev process should help us to improve things :) So here is > a proposal, it's a bit long, sorry for that.
would this discussion not more suitable after the 4.2 release ;? > *Before updating Pootle: > - it's important for l10n team to know the approx load of work > that will be needed to achieve the whole work. Time between beta1 > and rc1 is short and that will help to better organize this time > between translation and proof reading. +1 <snip> > - it's exhausting when you think you are over and to see a new > bunch of words coming. Knowing it in advance help to manage the > time too +1 <snip> > *About the en_US overall quality > - the process to rely on the l10n team to fix the en_US version is > ok, even if it gives us extra work to understand what is meant > before we realized it's a mistake. So it's also error prone for > all the translations. - but that doesn't solve the several typos > that already exist and that are overlooked by the l10n team (e.g > in the Character > Font Effect dialog, there is Overline _c_olor > and Underline _C_olor and this is the same for several dialogs) Do not forget the double/triple/howmuchelse used mnemonics in the UI ... ;) > - that doesn't solve also the lack of universal vocabulary used in > several dialogs (e.g Tab/Pane/Panel/Deck to name the same object > or Graphic/Picture/Image). I've nothing to propose here but to > define a glossary where developers could pick the good word but > I'm not sure it will be used Yes, that would be really nice (especially, if we as translators would get it as well ... ;) ). It is really time consuming, what is meant with word $X and then finding out, that word $Y was used on other places ... :( > * About the help files > - I always wonder why there is a Help button on a new dialog when > no help file is appended ;) And me is wondering, why there is not only a help button but also a help menu (as I am still a victim of https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=72022, I am not sure, if there should be any difference between the two ... :( ). Both opens konqueror on my system, although I have installed the OLH ... :( > - more and more functions are undocumented or their help is > obsolete. I always think that an undocumented function is lost for > the user and a sad thing for a developer because his function will > not be used as expected. May be, but I don't know how heavy it > would be for developers, the solution would be to open an issue > with a special tag like NF for each new feature, with three lines > about what the feature is supposed to do. Searching on BZ with > this special tag would allow to involve more people in the loop to > test it and document it. Yes, please :) I also would like to see a short description for new function, that shortly explains it (and maybe a short example for it documented there as well) ... ;) Thanks for your mail Thomas. -- God is dead and I don't feel all too well either.... -- Ralph Moonen -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: l10n+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/l10n/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
