On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Tal Daniel <[email protected]> wrote:

> In brief: I try to coordinate work on the Hebrew translation, and continue
> the discussion on Google Drive:
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 2:10 AM, Yaron Shahrabani <[email protected]
> >wrote:
>
> > Both תכונה/תכונות.
> >
> OK, I'll use תכונה/תכונות  to translate SW features. Will add it to the
> Drive doc.
>
> Great ☺

>
> > The former OpenOffice translation is very unprofessional, I wouldn't use
> it
> > as a reference, I fixed most of the mistakes they made in LibreOffice,
> most
> > of them are pretty basic, some are more complicated (Adding many
> > directionality characters making it very difficult to change the text or
> > remove parts of it).
> >
> Yaron, I notice many mistakes myself, and fix them, as much as I can.
> By Gezer, do you refer to this page? --
> http://wiki.hamakor.org.il/gezer/?q=rules
>

Sure, the difference is that I have to sign all sorts of Apache SLA and I'm
not sure I like the Apache foundation so much, LibreOffice is different.

>
> In the string you presented for example there's no separation between the
> > usage prefix ל and the product name as the Hebrew academy suggests.
> > Although the suggested symbol is a minus we (many open source
> > translators, I can show you some examples) usually prefer the Hebrew
> native
> > symbol of Maqqaf (בית־עץ) explained further here:
> > http://hebrew-academy.huji.ac.il/hahlatot/Punctuation/Pages/P35.aspx
> > And at the Gezer rules I sent earlier.
> >
> I usually fix ל/ב/ה to ה-/ל-/ב- in conjunction with English. I know we
> should use the formal מקף sign to connect word structures, but I see no
> real problem to use the more common sign "-", at least for now (BTW, the
> Heb Academy also use "-" in their site). The מקף is more common in
> printing, while "-" is more easy to type & read, on screen. Other matters
> require more urgent work, as you already know.
>

Sure, the Hebrew Academy states that whenever the formal Maqqaf can't be
used you can use a minus but since we are professionals we use Maqqaf and
the users can choose (I can help you with installing the appropriate
keyboard layout that has these symbols).

>
>
> [...] the description of the Excel/Spreadsheet functions are horrible
> >
> Yes, I think we should revert to original ENGLISH form.
>
> To conclude, I suggest we'll continue to develop and discuss OO translation
> and its common keywords through the Drive doc at
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tSHkggqBpqg9WJYXmI5MmFfqtM9yG7r-RrF4ienzm2M/edit?usp=sharing
> -
> Hebrew translators are invited to edit and add/comment on things, if the
> purpose is to create a discussion around a specific word translation issue.
> As you've noticed in this Google Drive doc, I've already found & fixed
> (grayed texts) some common translation problems in the most common windows
> and dialogs of Writer, Calc, and Impress.
>
> I invite you to add problems within the doc, and answer my open
> questions/comments there, and start to coordinate on different
> responsibilities and split work between volunteers (you & me, TMHO).
>
> Note that I'm working on a Hebrew website translation too, to make
> installation & download more accessible to Israelis.
>

I've seen your efforts, I wish I had more free time to assist you with
it... Anyways I'll see what I can do, we are currently low on resources on
more popular projects.

>
> Shabat Shalom,
> Tal
>

You too,
Yaron.

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